BRFR Cake Stop 'breaking news' miscellany

[briantrumpet]

I see no evidence here of new members.

It does look a bit 1980s.

 

[Pblakeney]

I haven't read the article, but I'm quite enjoying the reactions to Burn-Murdoch's article arguing that the rise of mobile telephony from 2008 has led to the decrease in the number children being born around the world. Has he spotted something, or is this like the book of spurious correlations?

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I would have thought Tinder might have brought the opposite result.
Just shows how little I know.

 

[icowden]

I haven't read the article, but I'm quite enjoying the reactions to Burn-Murdoch's article arguing that the rise of mobile telephony from 2008 has led to the decrease in the number children being born around the world. Has he spotted something, or is this like the book of spurious correlations?

The chart is showing the drop off in teen pregnancies largely. In women between 15 to 19 years of age birth rate fell 71% between 2007 and 2024. For 20-24 year olds 43%. 25-29 year olds by 23%.

So it largely reflects that teenage pregnancies have dropped hugely and people are tending to wait to their 30s.

 

[BoldonLad]

The chart is showing the drop off in teen pregnancies largely. In women between 15 to 19 years of age birth rate fell 71% between 2007 and 2024. For 20-24 year olds 43%. 25-29 year olds by 23%.

So it largely reflects that teenage pregnancies have dropped hugely and people are tending to wait to their 30s.

Are the figures broken down by Socio-economic groups?

Personally I don't see a fall in teenage pregnancies as an undesirable development.

 

[AndyRM]

Are the figures broken down by Socio-economic groups?

Personally I don't see a fall in teenage pregnancies as an undesirable development.

I was thinking the same. Teen pregnancy has been horribly stigmatised over the years, but now it's somehow a bad thing that it's falling off?

Yours, confusedly,
A Teenage Dad.

 

[icowden]

Are the figures broken down by Socio-economic groups?

Full paper is here:
https://homepages.uc.edu/~moscoshn/Personal_webpage/papers/Smartphone_web.pdf

Personally I don't see a fall in teenage pregnancies as an undesirable development.

Well no. Exactly. There is however an upswing in teen suicides which is a less useful outcome.

 

[PurplePenguin]

In memory of Rick Chasey

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj6pyk7e3w4o

 

[briantrumpet]

Wow, why has no-one ever thought of this before in London?

Well, apart from:

 

[AuroraSaab]

In memory of Rick Chasey

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj6pyk7e3w4o

I thought that was quite an interesting article.
It gave both sides rather than the usual 'You got everything on a plate' or 'We lived in a hole in t'road and were grateful for it'.

 

[Pblakeney]

Wow, why has no-one ever thought of this before in London?

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Well, apart from:

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Try telling drivers that they will no longer be allowed to use the bridges. #waronmotorists 😂🤪😂

 

[briantrumpet]

It is really disappointing to see already-debunked fake posts shared by prominent people (Hamill has 1.3mn followers on Bluesky). I'm annoyed enough if I do it, but there's even less of an excuse for someone of Hamill's reach. It's even more annoying when it's pointed out and they don't take the post down and apologise. There's enough Trumpshit out there without making stuff up.

 

[BoldonLad]

Wow, why has no-one ever thought of this before in London?

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Well, apart from:

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A bit smaller scale:

I thought that was quite an interesting article.
It gave both sides rather than the usual 'You got everything on a plate' or 'We lived in a hole in t'road and were grateful for it'.

Yes, I agree, but, I did think someone born in 1962 claiming to be a "baby boomer" was pushing it a little. 😊

 

[briantrumpet]

Shame they couldn't have both lost, but on balance, probably the lesser of two evils...

 

[BoldonLad]

Full paper is here:
https://homepages.uc.edu/~moscoshn/Personal_webpage/papers/Smartphone_web.pdf

Well no. Exactly. There is however an upswing in teen suicides which is a less useful outcome.

Not sure that I agree that a reduction in births equates with a reduction in fertility, maybe it reflects more effective availability and use of contraception (ie, maybe all of those sex education lessons actually worked).

Any fathers of teenage girls may wish to skip the next part.....

Remembering my teenage years, (1960 - 1967, the so called swinging 60s) getting a shag was a major part of my waking efforts. Even if you struck lucky, you then had the problem of where (parents, at least mine, were unlikely to countenance the latest conquest, staying the night, or, even an hour of unsupervised "fun"). I don't believe that the average teenage boy's desire is any different (although, I agree, there may be more distractions, but, IMHO, none compare), so, I assume that the same amount of shagging is going on now, as it was in the 60s (maybe more). My theory is that the youth of today are better informed on how to avoid pregnancy, the means are more readily available, and, parental attitudes are more likely to allow "civilised" shagging.

 

[Pblakeney]

Not sure that I agree that a reduction in births equates with a reduction in fertility, maybe it reflects more effective availability and use of contraception (ie, maybe all of those sex education lessons actually worked).

I'm fairly sure that there has been scientific studies showing that fertility is dropping.
Sperm count in particular.