Climate Crisis: Are we doing enough?

[icowden]

And why are they expensive? There is little incentive to compete small, and why cars like that can charge double what it should cost.
Even the main cost, the battery, in todays market costs them only about £500.

You missed off a zero and forgot to add 2k.

aAccording to Statista, the average cost of a lithium-ion electric car battery in 2023 was $139 per kWh. This works out as £109.25 per kWh in the UK. While it is still expensive, it is much lower than in 2013 when the cost per kWh was $780 (£613.04 ).
Unfortunately, this does make an electric car battery replacement a very expensive job. This means, as of January 2024, the average cost for an electric car battery is £7,235.07 (estimated).

 

[albion]

Hmmm. So currently £543 per 10kwh
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2024/01/ev-lfp-battery-price-war-w-55-in-six-months.html
One battery of that car is 5.6kwh making for 11.2. So £608 as of now if it comes fully standard with 2 batteries.

 

[albion]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuling_Hongguang_Mini_EV

This seems to be China's top selling small car. General Motors are a manufacturing partner.
Current sale cost is said to be $3000, possibly with a $2000 government incentive discount.

 

[BoldonLad]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuling_Hongguang_Mini_EV

This seems to be China's top selling small car. General Motors are a manufacturing partner.
Current sale cost is said to be $3000, possibly with a $2000 government incentive discount.

I wonder what it's NCAP rating is?

 

[albion]

I wonder what it's NCAP rating is?

'Crushed by all others'?

 

[BoldonLad]

'Crushed by all others'?

??

 

[albion]

https://www.pv-magazine.com/2024/02...nction-solar-cell-with-over-26-06-efficiency/

On paper, reduces a 20kg solar panel down to about 200 grams. And by the looks of it, not a short life organic panel either.

 

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

Toyota sold 3900 Hydrogen powered vehicles last year, out of their 10 million vehicles they sold.... They are not giving up, but admit sales are rubbish and are ramping up battery powered electric cars.

https://www.expressandstar.com/news...ramps-up-production-of-battery-electric-cars/

Toyota is indeed not done with hydrogen, they now have a prototype that captures carbon from the air and then converts it to hydrogen.(granted it's only 20g or something an can convert now but still
(source: https://www.motor1.com/news/710347/toyota-combustion-engine-filter-co2/ )
Toyota has multi strategy where they invest in new engines, EV's Hydrogen-EV and hydrogen-combustion. They even claim they already have an carbon-negative prototype.
quite interesting stuff re-fueling an hydrogen car takes about 2 mins, even if they could make super-turbo chargers an EV is not going to beat that.

 

[Deleted member 121]

Toyota is indeed not done with hydrogen, they now have a prototype that captures carbon from the air and then converts it to hydrogen.(granted it's only 20g or something an can convert now but still
(source: https://www.motor1.com/news/710347/toyota-combustion-engine-filter-co2/ )
Toyota has multi strategy where they invest in new engines, EV's Hydrogen-EV and hydrogen-combustion. They even claim they already have an carbon-negative prototype.
quite interesting stuff re-fueling an hydrogen car takes about 2 mins, even if they could make super-turbo chargers an EV is not going to beat that.

Read it again. That is not what it does. It is simply a carbon capture device that uses the heat provided by the Hydrogen powered engine to turn it into a liquid then releases it. It is NOT converting carbon dioxide into hydrogen.

 

[the snail]

Read it again. That is not what it does. It is simply a carbon capture device that uses the heat provided by the Hydrogen powered engine to turn it into a liquid then releases it. It is NOT converting carbon dioxide into hydrogen.

Indeed that would be a clever trick. Perhaps it could turn base meta into gold at the same time?

 

[AndyRM]

I spotted this rather tragic bumper sticker while out for a walk this morning...

 

[Deleted member 121]

I spotted this rather tragic bumper sticker while out for a walk this morning...

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Don't worry, it's attached to a poxy Vauxhall, so the driver and its occupants will be walking instead if driving soon enough....

 

[AndyRM]

Don't worry, it's attached to a poxy Vauxhall, so the driver and its occupants will be walking instead if driving soon enough....

It has an exhaust the size of a bin which I assume makes it go faster and perhaps requires extra oil?

 

[Deleted member 121]

It has an exhaust the size of a bin which I assume makes it go faster and perhaps requires extra oil?

Fart in a can exhausts. Mind you, you can hear em coming so you can prepare yourself to turn, point and laugh as they drive by.

 

[Ian H]

Fart in a can exhausts. Mind you, you can hear em coming so you can prepare yourself to turn, point and laugh as they drive by.

My son, some years ago when he was looking for a first car: It's got to have an exhaust big enough that I can fit my head in it. Said ironically, for avoidance of doubt.