Climate Crisis: Are we doing enough?

[Shortfall]

You never make a special trip to get petrol?

Anyway - the point is that refuelling in an EV is a different process and philosophy. Many people consider it a deal breaker or inconvenient. I think of it as a different kind of convenience. A little chance to relax on a longer journey. I prefer it.

If only it was possible for ICE vehicles to leave the motorway network and stop at places with cheaper petrol and nicer places to eat than service stations.

 

[briantrumpet]

I might have to get some more petrol after Easter. But I'm not sure yet.

 

[icowden]

If only it was possible for ICE vehicles to leave the motorway network and stop at places with cheaper petrol and nicer places to eat than service stations.

Go on then. Name a restaurant or pub that has it's own petrol pump.

 

[Shortfall]

Go on then. Name a restaurant or pub that has it's own petrol pump.

I can't, but if you think that's stopping anyone finding a petrol station and a nice eatery that are a short distance from the motorway then I can't help you. Not that you need to stop for petrol on 99% of journeys as I reckon most ICE cars can cover 400 plus miles in a oner.

 

[BoldonLad]

Do young people really need to be taught? Changing a wheel, okay maybe, but washer fluid? Really? Using a petrol pump?

How are these people going to cope with things like making toast?

Well, they went on to be Senior Nurse Practioner, Maths Teacher, and Civil Engineer.

None of them have miss-fueled a car, one of them has actually "learned" how to charge an EV. None of them have topped up the coolant instead of the windscreen washer, or, poured water in the oil filler.

I haven't checked on their toast making abilities.

 

[Pross]

Go on then. Name a restaurant or pub that has it's own petrol pump.

It doesn’t need its own though, just one somewhere on the route between the motorway and said restaurant or pub.

 

[Ian H]

Well, they went on to be Senior Nurse Practioner, Maths Teacher, and Civil Engineer.

None of them have miss-fueled a car, one of them has actually "learned" how to charge an EV. None of them have topped up the coolant instead of the windscreen washer, or, poured water in the oil filler.

I haven't checked on their toast making abilities.

My dead father (before he died, of course) proudly proclaimed he couldn't even 'cook toast'. He knew where the oil and washer fluid went though.

 

[briantrumpet]

My dead father (before he died, of course) proudly proclaimed he couldn't even 'cook toast'. He knew where the oil and washer fluid went though.

In the plug, or socket, obviously. Never in the toaster, as it makes the toast taste funny.

 

[BoldonLad]

My dead father (before he died, of course) proudly proclaimed he couldn't even 'cook toast'. He knew where the oil and washer fluid went though.

?

 

[monkers]

It's odd to read a thread on a cycling forum where people attempt to justify all forms of polluting travel. I travel frequently, I've never flown, do not own a car (though I once did). I choose to walk or cycle as primary option, if not I then use the bus or train. If that doesn't get me to places, which would otherwise be to satisfy a whim, I don't go. The exception being my occasional trips back to Ireland when once or twice a year I then use the ferry.

Yes public transport can be expensive. Although that is a linked issue, it is a separate political discussion.

 

[PurplePenguin]

It's odd to read a thread on a cycling forum where people attempt to justify all forms of polluting travel. I travel frequently, I've never flown, do not own a car (though I once did). I choose to walk or cycle as primary option, if not I then use the bus or train. If that doesn't get me to places, which would otherwise be to satisfy a whim, I don't go. The exception being my occasional trips back to Ireland when once or twice a year I then use the ferry.

Yes public transport can be expensive. Although that is a linked issue, it is a separate political discussion.

On bike radar, there was a thread with an excellent title. It encouraged people to sell their cars and take public transport instead. Unfortunately, despite being a bike forum, the content was less excellent.

 

[icowden]

I travel frequently, I've never flown, do not own a car (though I once did). I choose to walk or cycle as primary option, if not I then use the bus or train. If that doesn't get me to places, which would otherwise be to satisfy a whim, I don't go. The exception being my occasional trips back to Ireland when once or twice a year I then use the ferry.

When I was young and single, I lived in a place with good public transport. I didn't need a car.
Then I started gigging so I needed to be able to travel with a keyboard, amp, cables, mic stand and mic. Hard to do on public transport.

I then got married and had kids. It's almost impossible to get everywhere you need to be without the use of a car, plus I moved to a town with poor public transport.

I did get rid of the second car though in favour of cycling to the station to get the Train to work.

My children are now 17 and 19. In order to get to school / university / friends houses they need to use the car. Cycling to school is forbidden as the roads are too dangerous near the school. Older child doesn't cycle.

My wife and I like to travel the world with the kids when we go on holiday. It's very hard to get to places like Malaysia, Florida, Dubai, St Lucia, Mauritius, Canada etc for a two week holiday without using a plane.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

It's very hard to get to places like Malaysia, Florida, Dubai, St Lucia, Mauritius, Canada etc for a two week holiday without using a plane.

And there's the rub. Is that your holiday list for 2026?

 

[Pblakeney]

And there's the rub. Is that your holiday list for 2026?

The answer to the title question - No.

 

[matticus]

It's odd to read a thread on a cycling forum where people attempt to justify all forms of polluting travel. I travel frequently, I've never flown, do not own a car (though I once did). I choose to walk or cycle as primary option, if not I then use the bus or train. If that doesn't get me to places, which would otherwise be to satisfy a whim, I don't go. The exception being my occasional trips back to Ireland when once or twice a year I then use the ferry.

Yes public transport can be expensive. Although that is a linked issue, it is a separate political discussion.

Indeed.

This is something I find increasingly difficult as time goes by; how the heck do I talk to cyclists who have some green awareness, but just don't want to make the big sacrifices. The number of Brits flying their bikes to Majorca every spring/winter - and those people will almost all do a summer fly-away trip too - just depresses me! Many of them are people I know, and are otherwise "reasonable" people.