Climate Crisis: Are we doing enough?

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Psamathe

Guru
It's not that ridiculous if you compare it properly e.g pollution per capita.
Also as one of the wealthier countries in the world if we decline to act adequately we can hardly be surprised if other countries with weaker economies fail to act.

Also as a wealthier country our acting can help create the technology and market for cleaner energy generation.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
Please tell me you are being ironic.

I should have put a smiley thing I suppose...
 

Pross

Über Member
Having changed jobs and being back to commuting to Bristol a couple of times a week (by train other than having to drive to the station) I noticed they were digging up the area around Templemeads which is all to do with this project to expand the existing community heat network (that I didn't realise existed despite having worked in Bristol for a significant part of the last 25 years or so). I guess this is what happens when you put a bunch of lefties in charge of running a city why aren't they spending money erecting flagpoles and being patriotic instead of wasting money on the climate change con"? If only more councils would be this forward thinking (I've assumed it is a good thing but I'm half expecting someone to explain why it actually isn't and doesn't really help the environment).
 

briantrumpet

Timewaster
Having changed jobs and being back to commuting to Bristol a couple of times a week (by train other than having to drive to the station) I noticed they were digging up the area around Templemeads which is all to do with this project to expand the existing community heat network (that I didn't realise existed despite having worked in Bristol for a significant part of the last 25 years or so). I guess this is what happens when you put a bunch of lefties in charge of running a city why aren't they spending money erecting flagpoles and being patriotic instead of wasting money on the climate change con"? If only more councils would be this forward thinking (I've assumed it is a good thing but I'm half expecting someone to explain why it actually isn't and doesn't really help the environment).

I really can't remember a time when they haven't been digging up around Temple Meads.
 

Pross

Über Member
I was surprised to hear yesterday that the target for recycling in England is 65% by 2030. In Wales it was over 68% in 2024/25 with over half of the local authorities hitting the 70% target that was set for 2025. There were also several Ciuncils in England saying they were going to miss the deadline for weekly food waste collections, we’ve had them domestically for over a decade and they’ve been compulsory for businesses producing over 5kg of waste a day since 2024. Why are England so far behind on this? Is it because it has been deemed woke by all the populists?
 

secretsqirrel

Über Member
I was surprised to hear yesterday that the target for recycling in England is 65% by 2030. In Wales it was over 68% in 2024/25 with over half of the local authorities hitting the 70% target that was set for 2025. There were also several Ciuncils in England saying they were going to miss the deadline for weekly food waste collections, we’ve had them domestically for over a decade and they’ve been compulsory for businesses producing over 5kg of waste a day since 2024. Why are England so far behind on this? Is it because it has been deemed woke by all the populists?

Devolved government doesn’t provide all the answers but I would give the Welsh government credit for being agile enough to implement a few progressive policies ahead of the rest. Single-use bag charges was a good example, this was introduced and people adapted quite quickly with excellent results. This was adopted a few years later in England, and even after the successful ‘test’ in Wales, there was much resistance.
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
South Tyneside
I was surprised to hear yesterday that the target for recycling in England is 65% by 2030. In Wales it was over 68% in 2024/25 with over half of the local authorities hitting the 70% target that was set for 2025. There were also several Ciuncils in England saying they were going to miss the deadline for weekly food waste collections, we’ve had them domestically for over a decade and they’ve been compulsory for businesses producing over 5kg of waste a day since 2024. Why are England so far behind on this? Is it because it has been deemed woke by all the populists?

Does Wales have a unified method for recycling? England doesn’t, although I am not sure if that is why we lag behind Wales in this srea
 

Pross

Über Member
Does Wales have a unified method for recycling? England doesn’t, although I am not sure if that is why we lag behind Wales in this srea

I don't think it is completely unified, there are slight differences in the methods used between local authorities, but there was national legislation in respect of workplace recycling back in 2024 which has an impact.
 

Pross

Über Member
I'd add to the above that Wales doing relatively well on envionmental issues (they've just passed a new Environment Bill too) is one of the reasons I'm fearful of Reform getting control of the Senedd in May. They've said they'd like to reopen the mines and, whilst I don't believe they have the political capability to pull of something on that scale even if they could find companies interested in making the required investment, that just highlights the disdain they have for environmental issues and I can certainly see them wrecking laws and policies that have helped protect the environment.
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
South Tyneside
I'd add to the above that Wales doing relatively well on envionmental issues (they've just passed a new Environment Bill too) is one of the reasons I'm fearful of Reform getting control of the Senedd in May. They've said they'd like to reopen the mines and, whilst I don't believe they have the political capability to pull of something on that scale even if they could find companies interested in making the required investment, that just highlights the disdain they have for environmental issues and I can certainly see them wrecking laws and policies that have helped protect the environment.

The biggest obstacle to that (IMHO) is, where are they going to get the workforce from?
 

Pross

Über Member
The biggest obstacle to that (IMHO) is, where are they going to get the workforce from?

Immigrants. Oh...I mean the disenfranshised youth that have been left behind because of all the immigrants being allowed into our country in their hordes. There's nothing a bunch of Gen Zs would like more than to be given the opportunity of manual labour at the bottom of a deep mine.
 

Rusty Nails

Country Member
Immigrants. Oh...I mean the disenfranshised youth that have been left behind because of all the immigrants being allowed into our country in their hordes. There's nothing a bunch of Gen Zs would like more than to be given the opportunity of manual labour at the bottom of a deep mine.

As long as there's wi-fi down the pits they'll be fine.
 
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