Concentration camps and global warming

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icowden

Squire

They have an aggressively clever strategy. In the village where my mum lives in Worcestershire, one of the farmers had to sell some of his land in order to meet a divorce settlement. It was snapped up by the chicken farm giant in question to build a single chicken shed (not too bad you might think). Some of the information in the planning seemed fishy (about the volume of lorry movements etc), and Locals were able to dig up that as soon as these companies start with permission for one shed and get the locals on side, they then amend the planning to get another. And another. And another etc until the land is saturated with chicken sheds, the smell of chicken shoot is everywhere and the local stream / river is polluted.

Happily they were successful in getting the planning blocked.
 

Fab Foodie

Legendary Member
Shock, not.
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...xplain-decline-of-the-river-wye-tests-suggest

I do not think it is chicken shoot my nose gasps at, on the mass stench spreading I have come across recent.

yebbut chickening employs a lot of people in the region....
 

the snail

Active Member
... The efficiency is awesome, as is the quality of the product. Prime USDA grain fed beef is a well marbled, flavoursome melt-in-the-mouth bit of animal wondrousness AND at an 'affordable' $ price to the consumer...

And completely unsustainable. Most of those farms will go out of business when the water runs out. Also, it would be much more efficient to eat the grain/soy etc. rather than feed it to cattle and eat the beef.
 

Fab Foodie

Legendary Member
 
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albion

Guest
So, we are at the point now that if we get heavy rain at a certain time of the year near the whole river population dies.
And that toxic green algae so common now is farming related too.
 

Fab Foodie

Legendary Member
So, we are at the point now that if we get heavy rain at a certain time of the year near the whole river population dies.
And that toxic green algae so common now is farming related too.

Keep up will you, it's nothing new....
 

mudsticks

Squire
So, we are at the point now that if we get heavy rain at a certain time of the year near the whole river population dies.
And that toxic green algae so common now is farming related too.

Just one of the externalised costs of 'cheap' food innit.??

People either aren't prepared to pay for food produced to better environmental standards.

Or else their budgets are so squeezed by capitalistic housing, and other costs that they can't, even if they do care.

Supermarkets and other big players in the market drive down the farmgate price, because it's a 'buyers' market.
Farmers end up cutting corners.

Many people wanted to leave the EU because of all those allegedly 'annoying' rules - such as those, that sought to protect our ecosystems, our rivers and beaches.
Those dreadful meanies in Europe insisted upon at least minimum standards.

This is what you get if everything is left to the unregulated 'free' market..
A total race to the bottom.

And now look who we've got at defra .
Someone more than happy to promote Bayers poison.

Utterly depressing 😟
 
So, we are at the point now that if we get heavy rain at a certain time of the year near the whole river population dies.
And that toxic green algae so common now is farming related too.
Bit to fast, you're confusing cause and causation, Farming on itself it's not the problem, as humans have been doing that for hundreds of years and the projected(and already outdated) doomscenarios are now over the past 100 years, not before that, the problem is factory farms who can produce cheap for things like supermarkets, so said supermarkets can have higher profit margins. (make no mistake it's driven by profit, they can also setup a network of local, smaller farm supply chains but that cost them more)
The EU made that even worse because little family farms don't have expensive lobbygroups and big factory farms do so whatever issues re being adressed they always going to hurt the family farms but never the big ones.
And that's why this problem won't be solved. And many other things that basicly is the same situation with a other topic, the rich get richer the poor get poorer, it's all rinse and repeat.
We used to have protestors against sour rain, now they are against oil, same thing different time.. end of the line in 10 years time they all work for the big companies they now claim are ''killing their future'' because the battery car, heat pump, ecofriendly house all have to paid from something right?
 
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