Does anybody here take the Greens seriously?

[icowden]

My views on this issue aren't exactly unusual. We know how their policy will work out because we can see the results in Spain and Germany. From my viewpoint they aren't good, other than for pimps, traffickers, and sex buyers. If you are happy with that as an outcome, that's fine. I'm not and it's disingenuous of any party that promotes this, backed by Amnesty or not, to claim it's the best solution.

So you don't think the sex workers know what they are talking about, and that policy should be set by people who aren't sex workers. I thought you were all for the sex workers deciding what should happen?

 

[AuroraSaab]

What would you see as a good way for a government to manage this area of human activity?

It's not an area of human activity that is inevitable but leaving that aside the Nordic model would be a start. More services to help people exit prostitution would help.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Well until we do, and the Green Party haven't included that in their plan as far as I know, let's not make rape date drugs more widely available. In fact, let's not chuck out any more bonkers popularist policies without thinking them through.

They'll never be 'widely available'. That's just you trying to feed the scare story again.
As for the 'plan', doesn't that sort of thing have to be debated in parliament before Boots get their stock?
And maybe you could consider checking out the meaning of polularism/popularist.

 

[First Aspect]

It's not an area of human activity that is inevitable but leaving that aside the Nordic model would be a start. More services to help people exit prostitution would help.

Do you think the Greens' drug policies might help with that last part?

 

[AuroraSaab]

So you don't think the sex workers know what they are talking about, and that policy should be set by people who aren't sex workers. I thought you were all for the sex workers deciding what should happen?

I think some sex workers like being sex workers. I bet if you could survey many thousands of them most don't like it. Some people like taking drugs. We don't set drugs policy based on their choice alone.

Women who leave prostitution have a higher rate of PTSD than those who served in armed combat. Maybe hear the stories of those who weren't happy volunteers.

https://www.caase.org/mental-health-impacts-of-sex-trade/

If you’re going down the bodily autonomy argument, we outlaw/discourage lots of things that rely on personal autonomy because we realise it's for the wider social good to do so.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Do you think the Greens' drug policies might help with that last part?

No. Universal basic income might.
I guess they could fund it with the tax from the drugs and brothels. The drug addicts and sex workers in effect paying the middle classes a weekly stipend would be quite something.

 

[First Aspect]

No. Universal basic income might.
I guess they could fund it with the tax from the drugs and brothels. The drug addicts and sex workers in effect paying the middle classes a weekly stipend would be quite something.

You are very definitive on all of this, notwithstanding the range of policies that have been proposed by experts in the field.

Given the interrelationship between prostitution and drug addiction, I am not so sure, myself. But then I don't think I agree fully with either policy. That doesn't make them populist.

What makes the Greens populist is their headline grabbing Robin Hood stuff. I also tend to think their approach to green policies themselves are often populist, in that they are simple headline grabbing and impractical.

The drug and prostitution policies seem to have at least got some grounding in reality, in that they have been tried elsewhere.