Donald I, emperor of the world.
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bobzmyunkle
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Hopefully we'll see a couple of republicans who are intending to call it a day anyway stand up to the imbecile. Not holding my breath.
bobzmyunkle
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Enough of them believed to make a difference. Democracy in action.
cookiemonster
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Not really.
His margin of victory in the popular vote was just 1.62%, the fourth smallest since 1960.
That's not a landslide.
Wining with a popular vote margin on 1.5% is one of the lowest margins ever (previous election Biden had a popular vote margin of 4Ā½%) . He got far fewer electoral college votes than eg Obama in 2008. The Electoral College system makes analysis harder, just as the UK's FPTP system (eg Labour 34% of the votes and look at their majority).
It's only Trump and his supporters who are describing his win as a "landslide", the numbers certainly don't show that yet he actually got less than 50% of the popular vote!
Ian
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Technically you are right.
But the US system is winner takes all.
Itās a landslide when you hold both houses
Heās the most powerful president for a very long time.
Maybe I'm being a bit too "glass half-full" but I'm hoping the rest of <whatever group> can now start to sort themselves out and move forward in a stable manner. The rest of the world has to step-up and can at least plan long term without the US pratting around participating ... oh no, pulling out ... participating again ... pulling out again - that's madness and just disrupts the way forward for everybody..
So (extended) Europe forms a new defensive alliance without the US - it will be smaller and weaker but still significant enough to achieve what's needed and at least it will be stable without everybody having to wonder if the US is still going to be helping in a few months ...
Pity the WHO wont have the US but rest of the world has to make up the budgetary difference and/or rationalise what the WHO does but at least we can be confident about it being stable for the long term without uncertainty about US. Shame US wont be opart of the "Pandemic Agreement" but then they wouldn't be acting on eg vaccination steps (at least not at the moment) so they'd have been an unreliable participant anyway.
Same with Paris Climate Agreement. Shame the US is planning to pollute the atmosphere and climate for the rest of us but if that's their attitude so-be-it and we'll have to do the best we can, endure the climate change impact (as they'll have to as well) but at least we can plan a way forward knowing where we stand without the Hokey Cokey (in, out, in, out, etc.). Rest of the world will form opinions about the US reliability and cooperation based on their actions.
Shame but they've chosen and we'll have to get on with it and let them shoot themselves in the foot, just like we in the UK did over Brexit.
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cookiemonster
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matticus
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He won bigly.
cookiemonster
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True and that gives Trump a problem. As I mentioned, the mid-terms are in just 2 years and he has to deliver.
He campiagned on lower prices but, if he goes through with tariffs, prices will skyrocket, giving one example.
Getting rid of immigrants will be another. Who will do the domestic services that Americans will not do? Who will man the gas stations, supermarkets, drive the cabs etc.?
cookiemonster
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Let's not forget the Supreme Court, which he has in his back pocket.
Like a Mafia Godfather that has the judiciary and the police in his.
matticus
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Sorry, but you (and CXRAndy) are wrong in the context of the post being commented on:
Only some believed him. A very large minority, to be precise.
The democratic system in the US is a different discussion - it does not change how many citizens "believed him".
icowden
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Clarification: The team behind him have to deliver. None of what he is doing is ideas that he has come up with. They are the things that he "thinks" he has come up with.
And this is probably a plus point. I'm unconvinced that his team are leading with one voice, so sometimes the nudging and manipulation may go wrong, or he'll just do something crazy if they can't change his opinion swiftly enough.
Who cares? As long as the master race remains pure.
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