Donald I, emperor of the world.

[CXRAndy]

What he actually wants it seems is to go back to how it was in the boom times in the US between the wars.

And what is wrong with that as a economic strategy?

There are already big companies moving manufacturing to the USA

 

[AndyRM]

The 1980s called.

They'd like their obsolete analogue terrestrial TV broadcasting standards back - cheers!

Still a thing, but not how our MAGA enthusiast thinks it is.

 

[First Aspect]

And what is wrong with that as a economic strategy?

There are already big companies moving manufacturing to the USA

I'm referring to the Great Depression. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smo...riffs imposed,effects of the Great Depression.

But don't let past experience dampen your enthusiasm.

 

[CXRAndy]

I'm referring to the Great Depression

I thought you were referring to the boom of the 1920s.

 

[Pblakeney]

Because Starmer's trying to suck up to him.

I did ponder on BR a while back if the trade deals would prove us to be a strong nation or the US's bitch.
Looking more and more likely to be the latter.

 

[First Aspect]

I thought you were referring to the boom of the 1920s.

Sadly not.

The definition of stupidity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome.

Too many eggs are bad for you anyway, so there is an up side.

 

[Beebo]

Brilliant from Daniel Hannan. A man who Boris Johnson put in the House of Lords. Totally two faced. How do these people sleep at night.

April 2025 - When the Trump presidency ends in ignominy, a lot of the people now cheerleading him will deny ever having backed it.

September 2020 - Trump’s flaws are many, but he’d be better for Britain than Biden. If Biden wins, the free world may find itself longing for a stronger Anglo-American alliance.

 

[CXRAndy]

Sadly not.

The definition of stupidity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome.

Too many eggs are bad for you anyway, so there is an up side.

Who to say they are following the exact strategy. Trump is trying to bring manufacturing back to the USA, stimulating growth.

It goes without saying, times are different, but using parts of history to achieve modern day results

 

[CXRAndy]

Brilliant from Daniel Hannan. A man who Boris Johnson put in the House of Lords. Totally two faced. How do these people sleep at night.

April 2025 - When the Trump presidency ends in ignominy, a lot of the people now cheerleading him will deny ever having backed it.

September 2020 - Trump’s flaws are many, but he’d be better for Britain than Biden. If Biden wins, the free world may find itself longing for a stronger Anglo-American alliance.

How many labour MPs were slagging off Trump, now are grovelling little sh!ts.
Before

View: https://x.com/triffic_stuff_/status/1881237143973949637?t=e9jQ4YR3KKFoImW7KEEd9g&s=19


Now


View: https://x.com/Dragonboy155/status/1895188568592785899?t=0O-tL2yU74b9W9m6CZvr5w&s=19



There were many more MPs doing the same in 2020

 

[Stevo 666]

If this is a Brexit bonus what is the 15% reduction in UK exports to the EU as a result of Brexit (bearing in mind our exports to the EU were around 5 times what they are to the US)?

"The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away"...

That's not my point though. Would you agree that we are less impacted by the Trump tariffs by virtue of not being in the EU?

 

[Dorset Boy]

Who to say they are following the exact strategy. Trump is trying to bring manufacturing back to the USA, stimulating growth.

It goes without saying, times are different, but using parts of history to achieve modern day results

As has been said, you cannot increase manufacturing overnight, building factories, bringing mothballed production lines back on stream, training and recruiting employees takes time.
Then there's the comparative labour costs. How much is Mr Blue Collar MAGAman going to want to be paid?
Compare that with how much the worker in the far east is being paid.
Then look at the impact on the price that then has to be charged for the US produced item vs the far eat produced item.
Significant cost inflation results, and can people then afford the item produced in the US?

So, it is highly doubtful that the TT's ideas will do anything to stimulate growth, and are more likely to do the opposite.

 

[Stevo 666]

Enjoy that thought while you can.

Same question to you as to midlandsgrimpeur above...

 

[Stevo 666]

Because it's complicated. Brexit makes it more complicated.

The soft land border between the NI and SI is an EU border. The R of I is an EU member state with a tariff imposition of 20%, while Northern Ireland is part of the UK with a tariff imposition of 10%. The result is the inevitable increase in smuggling of goods for export to the US across the border from south to north. This will lead to demands for security on the border, which is a breach of international agreements. Politically, for the UK, it's a nightmare situation.

The only solution is to harmonise the rates between the EU and the UK. Therefore, politically Starmer will need to make a 20% tariff imposition on the US in order to force Trump to increase the tariff on the UK to 20%, making the UK position economically worse.

Bloody Leavers. Oops, sorry, I forgot that they knew what they were doing.

Squadron of pigs on standby...

 

[C R]

Brilliant from Daniel Hannan. A man who Boris Johnson put in the House of Lords. Totally two faced. How do these people sleep at night.

April 2025 - When the Trump presidency ends in ignominy, a lot of the people now cheerleading him will deny ever having backed it.

September 2020 - Trump’s flaws are many, but he’d be better for Britain than Biden. If Biden wins, the free world may find itself longing for a stronger Anglo-American alliance.

At least he is now realising what kind of person Trump is.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

That's not my point though. Would you agree that we are less impacted by the Trump tariffs by virtue of not being in the EU?

Yes, I would agree that we have been given a lesser tariff which may have a lesser impact. Your point though was not to simply state the lesser tariff, but rather to highlight it as a specific benefit of Brexit. If you highlight a benefit, it is also apposite to highlight a drawback.