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Interesting development:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...-transcripts-trump-remarks-website-rcna208059

The US Administration have decided that Donny's speeches look so unbelievably stupid written down that they have scrubbed them from the White House web site in favour of just posting the videos.

And the videos don't look stupid?
 

Psamathe

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Heard about this on a (reliable) podcast so souble checked as I'd not seen it widely reported.
Trump sends free-speech team to interview UK activists
State department diplomats huddle with pro-life campaigners in latest sign of US willingness to intervene in domestic British affairs
Donald Trump sent US officials to meet British pro-life activists over concerns their freedom of speech has been threatened, The Telegraph can reveal.

A five-person team from the US state department spent days in the country and interviewed campaigners to feed back to the White House.
To me this beggars belief, particularly given the attacks Trump is making against US Press, US Academic US Establishments, US Courts, etc. If we treated him/US the way he treats us them he wouldn't be a happy bunny.

Like his treatment of Ramaphosa. How would Trump have reacted if he visited South Africa and initial press presentation Trump was shown a video of the Klu Klux Clan burning a US citizen on a cross ... and that would at least have been about the US rather than non-South African country.

We really should be standing-up to him not repeatedly clutching our ankles and taking an ever worsening position.

Ian
 

CXRAndy

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We really should be standing-up to him
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icowden

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Like his treatment of Ramaphosa. How would Trump have reacted if he visited South Africa and initial press presentation Trump was shown a video of the Klu Klux Clan burning a US citizen on a cross ... and that would at least have been about the US rather than non-South African country.
So far in his Presidency he hasn't been abroad a lot. The funeral of the pope and visits to Saudi, Quatar and UAE where his sort of corruption and venality is likely seen as a plus point.

HIs upcoming visits are not likely to be as friendly. Canada (June 15-17) G7 Summit - I suspect he'll have to sneak in quite quietly. He then has a panned visit to the UK in September. Hopefully the flying trump baby and some tributes to Janey Godley will be present.
 

briantrumpet

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I would hope that even BR Rick would now agree we're into full-on wannabe fascism... control the media (threaten to withdraw licences and sue them left right and centre if they don't comply), state-sponsored violence to terrorise a part of the population, control education at all levels, etc.

As I've mentioned before, I don't think they have any problems with being labelled fascist: they see it as a Good Thing.

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All uphill

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I would hope that even BR Rick would now agree we're into full-on wannabe fascism... control the media (threaten to withdraw licences and sue them left right and centre if they don't comply), state-sponsored violence to terrorise a part of the population, control education at all levels, etc.

As I've mentioned before, I don't think they have any problems with being labelled fascist: they see it as a Good Thing.

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So research into "curing" homosexuality and empathy are OK, as is research into skin-bleaching. Law research to focus on overturning election results.
 

briantrumpet

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So research into "curing" homosexuality and empathy are OK, as is research into skin-bleaching. Law research to focus on overturning election results.

And Kennedy suggests that all research should only be published through government-controlled mechanisms. It really isn't going to end well, if they carry on down this path, as the scientists will just leave. I just can't begin to foresee how far up shït creek the US is going to end up: no scientists, no science. Who needs experts, eh?
 

Psamathe

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And Kennedy suggests that all research should only be published through government-controlled mechanisms. It really isn't going to end well, if they carry on down this path, as the scientists will just leave. I just can't begin to foresee how far up shït creek the US is going to end up: no scientists, no science. Who needs experts, eh?
That idea is just beyond daft. Gov. controlled publications will by their nature have Gov. controlled editorship and Gov. controlled peer reviews and thus no credibility.

Beggars belief that the mad fools running the show over in Southern Canada can't see the long term damage they are doing to yhe country.

That said, why aren't the UK Gov. putting loads of £ to UK universities for new readerships and academic posts pre allocated to overseas academics wanting to migrate ie we'll take those the US are pushing out. But I guess we'll just watch them go to other countries who'll get the long term benefits.

Ian
 
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Pblakeney

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That said, why aren't the UK Gov. putting loads of £ to UK universities for new readerships and academic posts pre allocated to overseas academics wanting to migrate ie we'll take those the US are pushing out. But I guess we'll just watch them go to other countries who'll get the long term benefits.
Whilst I agree, the current narrative is "We don't need no more immigrants".
 
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icowden

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And Kennedy suggests that all research should only be published through government-controlled mechanisms. It really isn't going to end well, if they carry on down this path, as the scientists will just leave. I just can't begin to foresee how far up shït creek the US is going to end up: no scientists, no science. Who needs experts, eh?

I'm thinking that this is still the end point pretty much:
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monkers

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Whilst I agree, the current narrative is "We don't need no more immigrants".

Or perhaps we are accepting them whether we need them or not. I tend to look around the political messages from whatever government is in office at the time and sum them. Those with the most ambition tend to reveal the most I find.

At the moment I am made more suspicious as I listen to Wes Streeting. I admit to bias as I don't like the man for one personal reason, and I distrust him for his naked ambition to replace Starmer. I think Starmer would do well to recognise that danger.

Streeting has supported plans to double medical school training places to 15,000, increase GP training places by 50% to 6,000, and nearly double adult nurse training places by 2031. He has also criticized previous governments for failing to plan adequately for NHS workforce needs.

The BMA have told us what we already know, that there is a high demand for GP services. To sum these points we get to the position that Streeting is telling us that he has inherited a crisis in GP numbers from the Conservatives. There is more talk of seeking help from pharmacists - effectively pushing the private sector such as Boots to offer free services.

What the BMA also tell us is pretty shocking. That contrary to Streeting's public pronouncements that there is a high number of already qualified GP registrars looking for work against a background of few availabilities for employment in the UK. This kind of fits with media reports that qualified doctors are taking their skills abroad. The BMA also say that there is the real potential that a further 100 qualified GP registrars will join that number this year, with little prospect of finding work as a GP in the UK.

So my suspicion is fuelled. To save time I then asked co pilot the question, ''what is Wes Streeting saying about NHS staff and immigration?'' This is the reply ...


Wes Streeting has criticized the NHS's reliance on recruiting healthcare workers from "red list" nations, which are countries facing severe medical staff shortages. He has called this practice "immoral", arguing that it deprives struggling nations of their own trained professionals.

Streeting has blamed government failures in workforce planning, stating that Brexit has forced the NHS to depend on medics from poorer countries, defying World Health Organization (WHO) guidelines. He has pledged to reduce the NHS’s reliance on overseas recruitment by investing in training more domestic healthcare workers.

The UK has recruited tens of thousands of healthcare workers from countries like Nigeria, Ghana, and Zimbabwe since Brexit, raising ethical concerns. Critics argue that the UK should focus on training and retaining its own medical staff rather than relying on international recruitment.

When the pieces don't fit, I tend to draw my own conclusions. Streeting blames the Tories for the lack of GPs by accusing them of failing to plan, but fails to provide the money to employ out of work GPs. Streeting blames Brexit for NHS staff shortages. Streeting makes an arbitrary moral case for blocking help to meet the supposed NHS shortages with help from international doctors. It's not that I disagree here, but that I doubt his sincerity, just some pandering to the 'we don't need no immigrants' narrative.

Streeting can not say these things without Starmer and his cabinet being complicit.

Appeals to populism are very much the trend of the political parties. I worry that Zack Polanski is running for leadership of the Green Party with a populist agenda believing like the others, that only populism is an effective electoral strategy. So I ask myself, how far is Polanski prepared to go? Will he resort to misrepresenting facts?

Meanwhile Ed Davey is accused of not being serious due to his love of watersports (chuckle). Still it has to be noted that the recent yougov survey that I posted (up there somewhere) shows that Ed Davey is the political leader closest to challenging Starmer as desirable as a PM.

There's a long way to go before another general election becomes due, and as they say ''a week is a long time etc''.
 
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