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Ian H

Legendary Member
The Tony Benn’s quote on the 5 keys to holding power is very relevant to Musk. He is unelected and unaccountable.

What power have you got?
Where did you get it from?
In whose interests do you exercise it?
To whom are you accountable?
And how can we get rid of you?

If anyone can give a sensible, considered response, that justifies Musk’s current position I am all ears to hear it.

All of this depends on people playing by the rules. If a powerful group doesn't abide by the consensus then democracy can be a very fragile thing. Both Trump and Musk are dysfunctional, unempathetic people, only in it for their own ends.
It's said to be symptomatic of a declining empire that the leaders get more and more eccentric.
 

Psamathe

Active Member
Slashed 80% of staff, took the business private and offset losses against profits.
Took a business worth US$44bn and turned it unto one worth US$19bn driving away advertising, etc. and in a short time. No way on this planet that is anything other than incompetence, lack of ability and anywhere else the individual wouldn't even be on gardening leave but sacked with no prospects.

What are you talking about "offsetting losses against profits". In any business loss making aspects are always offset against profitable aspects. Basic business practice and nothing to do with Musk, basic accounting.

Ian
 

CXRAndy

Active Member
Took a business worth US$44bn and turned it unto one worth US$19bn driving away advertising, etc. and in a short time. No way on this planet that is anything other than incompetence, lack of ability and anywhere else the individual wouldn't even be on gardening leave but sacked with no prospects.

What are you talking about "offsetting losses against profits". In any business loss making aspects are always offset against profitable aspects. Basic business practice and nothing to do with Musk, basic accounting.

Ian

Sure it's common accounting, but never the less efficient. He acknowledged he overpaid for the platform, tried to back out of the deal at that price. But with ruthless leadership, slashed the moderating workforce to the minimum almost immediately to create an open platform. You may not like the platform -so be it, but many hundreds of millions across the world do

He is not like many leaders of business, for starters he is reportedly worth near $500bn dollars, so losing $25bn whilst not ideal, not going to break him financially.

His losses will have been offset.

Making and losing money is part of the gamble and reward in life

I know on a far, far smaller scale of losing many thousands of pounds on investments , but making many hundreds of thousands elsewhere.

If making money was so easy and not losing a penny on the way, everyone would be rich, wouldn't they

. I guess it's not so, as most don't accumulate much over their entire life.
 
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Veteran
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Probably MAGA farmers in the US will find out the cost of fücking around the hard way, the same way brexit supporting farmers did.
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
The Tony Benn’s quote on the 5 keys to holding power is very relevant to Musk. He is unelected and unaccountable.

What power have you got?
Where did you get it from?
In whose interests do you exercise it?
To whom are you accountable?
And how can we get rid of you?

If anyone can give a sensible, considered response, that justifies Musk’s current position I am all ears to hear it.

1: The power conferred by being part of a plutocracy within which wealth defers to greater wealth.
2: Through having more money than God.
3: His own.
4: Nobody.
5: There are more guns than people in the US, and not every gun owner drives a Tesla.

Perhaps more optimistic than justificatory. :smile:
 

Ian H

Legendary Member
The US Army Corps of Engineers opened two dams on Friday in Central California and let roughly 2.2 billion gallons of water flow out of reservoirs, after President Donald Trump ordered the release with the misguided intent to send water to fire-ravaged Southern California.
Trump celebrated the move in posts to Truth Social post on Friday and Sunday, declaring, “the water is flowing in California,” and adding the water was “heading to farmers throughout the State, and to Los Angeles.”
There are two major problems, water experts said: The newly released water will not flow to Los Angeles, and it is being wasted by being released during the wet winter season...

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/03/climate/trump-california-water-dams-reservoirs/index.html
 
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