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Rusty Nails

Country Member
Uluru is a natural site, they charge each person for every trip. What's wrong with that?


If you want to go and see beautiful sites around the world , you have to expect to pay.

Our natural sites are littered with rubbish

So the solution for litter is to charge us to get into Bannau Brycheiniog, Eryri, The Lake District, Dartmoor, The Cairngorms etc.

Uluru is a special case because of its sacred and cultural importance to the Aboriginal people who own it and the need to stop it being despoiled by people climbing it.
 

CXRAndy

Shaman
Look down at the verges, you will see it.
 
They aren't mutually exclusive. Great Prismatic Spring is astonishing full stop. But busy for that reason. But my fondest memories of the national parks are the less well trodden ones far closer to the main sites that you might think.

I remember doing a walk in the (free) Lake District, up to Raise and back down from Grisedale Tarn. I was amused by seeing the queue of ants (from a distance) on Striding Edge, astonished by the number of people milling about a few hundred metres either side of the wind shelter on Helvellyn, and then back to wandering lonely as a cloud one I'd passed there. If I go to the mountains, I'd rather see vultures and lizards than people.
 

CXRAndy

Shaman
So the solution for litter is to charge us to get into Bannau Brycheiniog, Eryri, The Lake District, Dartmoor, The Cairngorms etc.

Uluru is a special case because of its sacred and cultural importance to the Aboriginal people who own it and the need to stop it being despoiled by people climbing it.

Its a natural site, just because it has a cultural importance is neither here or there.

So does Stone henge for druid followers, but you have to pay to get up close to that too.
 
Doesn't matter what you say or point out. He knows best on this and every topic. Best to just accept that Britain is a festering sh!thole overrun with litter, crime and immigrants.

Be better off dropping a canister on the island and starting again.

There's no arguing with someone who's just seeking to rile and get responses by saying stupid shit to wind people up. The easiest way to do that is to say stuff that plainly isn't true.

I'll grant you that he does know best how to wind people up, but I doubt that he believes half the stupid shit he says.
 

Bazzer

Über Member
In fairness in Canada a national park has essentially no facilities. It is just somewhere you can go to get hypothermia, lost and/or eaten. In the US the national parks allow people to see all the world's wonders via a 100m long board walk from a convenient parking space. That has to be paid for.

Many of the US ones are also heavily overly used (within a few hundred metres of all of the roads obviously). Getting into Yellowstone by car used to involve driving. Now it involves booking years in advance. I was in Yosemite Valley on labour day weekend in 2015 and enjoyed some of theongest most picturesque traffic jams of my life. I would need to book in advance to go there as well now. There are queues for the Instagram shot at Delicate Arch. I could go on. Were I American I might feel justified in thinking I should get some sort of priority to my own national parks.
I know which I prefer, - even if it meant the inconvenience of carrying bear spray.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
There's no arguing with someone who's just seeking to rile and get responses by saying stupid shit to wind people up. The easiest way to do that is to say stuff that plainly isn't true.

I'll grant you that he does know best how to wind people up, but I doubt that he believes half the stupid shit he says.

Does anyone actually get wound up by him? I don't, personally. His schtick is just vaguely sad really but if gives him a giggle then fair enough I guess.
 
Does anyone actually get wound up by him? I don't, personally. His schtick is just vaguely sad really but if gives him a giggle then fair enough I guess.

Well, enough to think it's worth pixels and braincells to argue he's wrong (which can be taken as a given). I agree, it's just a sad way to get attention.
 
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Rusty Nails

Country Member
Its a natural site, just because it has a cultural importance is neither here or there.

So does Stone henge for druid followers, but you have to pay to get up close to that too.

Try telling that to the Anangu.

I hadn't realised Stonehenge was a natural phenomenon and National Park, I always thought it was a prehistoric man-made monument.

Well everyday is a learning day reading your posts..
 

CXRAndy

Shaman
Highlighting how stupid it is to witter on about a country's pricing policy for its parks and beauty spots, when other countries charge also, but that never seems to offend
 
You have to pay to go and see landmarks and historical sites in the UK. The English Heritage and the National Trust being the main two. They also rely heavily on donations.

What's the difference in the USA charging to access their beautiful natural sites, I mean, apart from leftie whining outrage?

I doubt they Americans are gonna worry about a few Brits not turning up

Where’s the whining outrage in thinking Canada has better national parks than the US?
You MAGA wannabes are so sensitive.

Luckily for me, I can just walk into my free, beautiful national park within 5 minutes of my home.
 
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So the solution for litter is to charge us to get into Bannau Brycheiniog, Eryri, The Lake District, Dartmoor, The Cairngorms etc.

Uluru is a special case because of its sacred and cultural importance to the Aboriginal people who own it and the need to stop it being despoiled by people climbing it.

The BB is right on my doorstep……literally.
 
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