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yello

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I'm perhaps naively a defender of free speech. In all it's abhorent (to me) forms. I generally think it better to know what depraved views exist out there,as distasteful as they are. It's easier to counter, to tackle and broadly speaking educate. Further, if one creates a mechanism for prosecuting hate speech, who then gets to define exactly what 'hate speech' is and how do we then stop that definition from including reasoned criticism in the future? Will any criticism of Tesla become such for example?

BUT, I'm starting to reconsider my position. After reading the last few pages I'm wondering if we can't prohibit inane speech. As someone who doesn't do social media etc, I think I'm getting some real world education here. It's an eye opener, truly.
 

monkers

Squire
You haven't been here long enough 😁

You clearly haven't grabbed the concept of 'too long'.

Not too long ago we had a prick somewhat similar to you gobshiteing loudly in the lounge of the community association. He liked to play the real big man, big balls bit.

That was until a small meek man who had the measure of him got up from his own table to speak with him, and he said, just loudly enough, ''you, you're wanted outside''. ''Oh yeh'' came the reply as he puffed himself up, ''who by''. ''Everybody on the inside'' said the small man as he turned to sit back down. A loud cheer went up in the room.
 
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ebikeerwidnes

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The democrats fully support this kind of behaviour, not only on the street but in schools too

We are way left on the political spectrum over here compared to the democrats

I certainly am and most teacher I have met are - not all but most

and I used to be a teacher so I have known a lot
some openly gay

I have never seen anything anywhere that could corrupt a child in a school - other than things they bring in from right wing influences from outside
 
We are way left on the political spectrum over here compared to the democrats

I certainly am and most teacher I have met are - not all but most

and I used to be a teacher so I have known a lot
some openly gay

I have never seen anything anywhere that could corrupt a child in a school - other than things they bring in from right wing influences from outside

It's very different in the US though. There is much more activism allowed by teachers in most states, whether it's wearing slogan t shirts, posters in their classroom, or actually advocating their own political views to pupils, they tolerate it in a way that would be unacceptable in the UK. But then the whole US education system is very odd. The system of having elected school boards where the a group of individuals can have ideological influence on their public school's curriculum and ethos is very different from what we have in the UK (mostly anyway). I prefer our system.

In the UK you rarely know what your teacher does on the weekend never mind what their political affiliations are. That's how it should be.
 

Pinno718

Active Member
I have been here a very long time. My views have hardly changed.
 

matticus

Guru
It's very different in the US though. There is much more activism allowed by teachers in most states, whether it's wearing slogan t shirts, posters in their classroom, or actually advocating their own political views to pupils, they tolerate it in a way that would be unacceptable in the UK. But then the whole US education system is very odd. The system of having elected school boards where the a group of individuals can have ideological influence on their public school's curriculum and ethos is very different from what we have in the UK (mostly anyway). I prefer our system.

In the UK you rarely know what your teacher does on the weekend never mind what their political affiliations are. That's how it should be.

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I agree that particular sign is innocuous and should have been allowed under the school board's own regs as educational. It's an over reaction to an attempt to make classrooms a politically neutral space.

If the classroom activism amongst US teacher's was coming mainly from the right wing I doubt posters on here would be defending it.
 
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matticus

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I agree that particular sign is innocuous and should have been allowed under the school board's own regs as educational. It's an over reaction to an attempt to make classrooms a politically neutral space.

Totally agree. I also pretty much agree with:
In the UK you rarely know what your teacher does on the weekend never mind what their political affiliations are. That's how it should be.
 

Dorset Boy

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It's very different in the US though. There is much more activism allowed by teachers in most states, whether it's wearing slogan t shirts, posters in their classroom, or actually advocating their own political views to pupils, they tolerate it in a way that would be unacceptable in the UK. But then the whole US education system is very odd. The system of having elected school boards where the a group of individuals can have ideological influence on their public school's curriculum and ethos is very different from what we have in the UK (mostly anyway). I prefer our system.

In the UK you rarely know what your teacher does on the weekend never mind what their political affiliations are. That's how it should be.

I thought teachers spent every waking hour working, either marking, lesson prep or school admin. Be it a weekday or a weekend.
That's what they keep telling everyone anyway.
 
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