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icowden

Shaman
So he neither said, nor meant, any one of those things.
OK.
Let's be fair. Andy is quite right that Charlie Kirk is not shouting "Chink" at at audience member, he is shouting "Chenk" at his co-panelist. It's a misattribution. Everything else is entirely accurate though.

For fun - take a look at his Cambridge University Debate when they open the floor. They start with a young Muslim student. He speaks to her like she is shoot on his shoe. His hatred is quite obvious.
 

CXRAndy

Squire
Project 'artic frost' conducted by the FBI where by partisan FBI agents and DOJ prosecutors would target Republican supporters and outlets.

Documents being released today
 

Ian H

Squire
When people with limited imagination stop thinking of lefties and righties as two amorphous but nevertheless diametrically opposed groups there might be a chance.

A recent survey found that people rarely cross the line. This is a complex graph, but informative. The two 'blocs' indicate that people who change their voting intentions largely stay within those boundaries.
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Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
A recent survey found that people rarely cross the line. This is a complex graph, but informative. The two 'blocs' indicate that people who change their voting intentions largely stay within those boundaries.
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Gammons & binburners not realising they're on exactly the same team? And I thought the left were meant to be the fractious infighters!

Speaking of which - isn't it interesting to see a broad consensus of approval within all the left / used-to-be-left / fractionally-left-of-centre parties for the Greens?

And doesn't that make you wish we had a democratic & representative voting system!
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
Agreed. I don't expect you'll convince some of the people who've decided to hate him because they don't like his politics though.

I think it's objectively preferable to hate a person because of their politics than to hate people simply for existing.

Which is what Charlie Kirk did.
 

Shortfall

Regular
I think it's objectively preferable to hate a person because of their politics than to hate people simply for existing.

Which is what Charlie Kirk did.

We obviously have a very different interpretation of what we saw in the clip. It doesn't matter how though. Somebody shot him in the neck.
 

Pblakeney

Über Member
We obviously have a very different interpretation of what we saw in the clip. It doesn't matter how though. Somebody shot him in the neck.

He was correct in that clip, and he didn't deserve to be shot in the neck in front of his family.
That doesn't mean the rest can be forgotten though. Quicker we move on the better imo.
 

CXRAndy

Squire
Can't imagine the anguish this father or his family are going through. But he still does the right thing
 

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All uphill

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Yes, indeed, explaining Britain's electoral behaviour, for 60 years, Has no-one been listening?

Imo electoral behaviour reflects the electoral system. Punch and Judy.

I have more sympathy for our politicians than some.

Compromise is seen as a weakness.
Nuance is seen as weakness.
Appearing tired or tipsy is headline news.
Every email, comment and action is a potential land mine.
 
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