PurplePenguin
Über Member
The area the UK controls is much larger than that, and yes the UK could do more, but the UK is doing more than the EU.
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The area the UK controls is much larger than that, and yes the UK could do more, but the UK is doing more than the EU.
midlandsgrimpeur
Prostrate Member
Yes, we have bought them all little hats and they now go on spa days.
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
That could be a good argument for the UK being in the EU and helping formulate something better than the current CFP. IIRC, their science and research was pretty good when the UK was in the EU, even if the UK didn't always like the diktats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Fisheries_Policy
PurplePenguin
Über Member
You always make that argument. Any Brexit benefit should be better because the UK should be saving the EU from itself.
PurplePenguin
Über Member
I don't really understand this sort of snide sarcasm. It's possible to believe the UK should never have left the EU whilst accepting that there have been benefits from Brexit. It's not a religion. You can sin a few times and acknowledge positives.
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
I'm not sure how you formulate a sensible fisheries policy in isolation. Well, you can, but unless all your neighbours agree and agree to police it, it's just pissing in the sea. It's another example where 'sovereignty' is effectively meaningless. I'll grant you that farming is slightly different in that French farmers can't suddenly start farming on UK soil (or at least, not without buying it first), but we've still got to deal with international markets over which the UK has no control.
Pblakeney
Squire
That is a fair point.
It would be helpful if those Brexit benefits were more obvious though.
PurplePenguin
Über Member
You say that, but if you look at the sandeel ban, it has been welcomed by the RSPB and fought in the courts by the EU. So I can't see how it is just "pissing in the sea".
icowden
Pharaoh
The traditional answer to this is , "go on then - list the Brexit Benefits"
Thus far I am not aware of anyone being able to find one.
Ian H
Shaman
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me [Emo Philips]
bobzmyunkle
Veteran
As mentioned above - sand eels. So maybe asking them to list two is the way forward.
BBC News - Sandeel fishing ban to remain in place
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgrwxxzxkjo
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
Yay, sand eels are saved, it's all been worth it, £100bn and all.
OK, that's snide sarcasm, I'll grant you that, but seriously, if that's your argument for why Brexit Is Slightly Good, then snide sarcasm might be justified, I'd suggest.
FWIW, for the millionth time, I'm not claiming everything the EU has ever done or will do is perfect, but, on balance, it's Considerably Less Shit than some mythical sovereignty.
icowden
Pharaoh
And we definitely couldn't have done that whilst still in the EU? Definitely?
C R
Legendary Member
We would have had to convince those horrid ignorant foreigners that our way was better, when it is self evidently obvious that it is, because we are British. We can now do things the obviously right British way without going through the effort of convincing any horrid ignorant foreigners.
PurplePenguin
Über Member
You say this in response to a mention of two Brexit benefits.
