EU & Brexit Bunker

[Stevo 666]

Doing research and coming to a conclusion doesn't necessarily indicate bias. Unevidenced prejudice does of course.

I am simply pointing out where their sympathies lie. They are hardly likely to publish a report goes against their predetermined views and a quick look at their website confirms that.

 

[icowden]

I am simply pointing out where their sympathies lie. They are hardly likely to publish a report goes against their predetermined views and a quite look at their website confirms that.

But you have only looked at 50% of the backers. What about the other company?

 

[Stevo 666]

But you have only looked at 50% of the backers. What about the other company?

? I havent looked at their backers.

 

[icowden]

? I havent looked at their backers.

What do you think commissioning means? You have covered the Federal Trust, one of the two commissioners of the report, but seem to have no interest in the Constitution Society.

A new report from John Springford, commissioned by the Constitution Society and the Federal Trust, analyses the economic impact of Brexit nine years after the UK voted to leave the EU.

So why the lack of interest? That 50% of the commissioning has been done by an independent foundation with no stated political leaning is surely relevant, especially if we say that the Federal Trust has a bias - do you not thing the counterbalance is provided by the Constitution Society?

 

[Stevo 666]

What do you think commissioning means? You have covered the Federal Trust, one of the two commissioners of the report, but seem to have no interest in the Constitution Society.

So why the lack of interest? That 50% of the commissioning has been done by an independent foundation with no stated political leaning is surely relevant, especially if we say that the Federal Trust has a bias - do you not thing the counterbalance is provided by the Constitution Society?

They state that they are pro the UK rejoining the EU and quoted where they did above. Are you saying thst they are not?

 

[icowden]

They state that they are pro the UK rejoining the EU and quoted where they did above. Are you saying thst they are not?

No, I'm saying that you have ignored 50% of the commissioners. What is the point of view of the other 50%?
Is it just possible that it has been jointly commissioned precisely to compensate for accusations of bias?

 

[Stevo 666]

No, I'm saying that you have ignored 50% of the commissioners. What is the point of view of the other 50%?
Is it just possible that it has been jointly commissioned precisely to compensate for accusations of bias?

I'm talking about their self confessed pro-EU bias. Not sure what you're talking about though.

 

[briantrumpet]

https://consoc.org.uk/people/

 

[C R]

View: https://youtu.be/bR-AXnvunlo?si=wtln0hjYborNF0a0

 

[Pblakeney]

I've got deja vu! 😂
We can still say deja vu? Right?

 

[briantrumpet]

I've got deja vu! 😂
We can still say deja vu? Right?

Only if you say it with a thoroughly English accent, and leave the roofs off the letters. None of this déjà vu nonsense.

 

[briantrumpet]

View: https://youtu.be/bR-AXnvunlo?si=wtln0hjYborNF0a0

Yebbut the actual hard statistics are biased.

If only we'd got that hard Brexit that no-one dared talk about.

Oh, we did.

Bugger.

 

[C R]

Yebbut the actual hard statistics are biased.

If only we'd got that hard Brexit that no-one dared talk about.

Oh, we did.

Bugger.

Ye, I know, bloody facts and reality and their liberal bias. If it weren't for that we would have our second unicorn by now.

 

[Ian H]

Only if you say it with a thoroughly English accent, and leave the roofs off the letters. None of this déjà vu nonsense.

Day jar view?

 

[PurplePenguin]

The report is like many others. It acknowledges the short-term forecasts were wrong, that services have done unexpectedly well and that when compared with European peers or the G7, Brexit has had little impact. The report fundamentally believes in the accuracy of the long term forecasts and feels the UK should have done better based on the performance of other, more similar/cherry picked countries.

We can loosely test the OBR’s average of forecasts against how the UK compared to other countries since the
referendum. If we compare the UK to France and Germany, or take the average of the G7, there appears to
be no effect of Brexit on GDP whatsoever, because those countries, Italy and Japan also suffered from weak
growth after 2016. But using a synthetic control method – also known as the ‘doppelgänger method’ – to identify
which countries had the most similar growth path to the UK before 2016, and then measuring the difference in
growth between the UK and these countries afterwards, a gap of 5 per cent had emerged by the middle of 2022.

UK services exports have grown strongly since Brexit, which seems to contradict the gravity models’ predictions.
But services trade grew rapidly in other advanced economies too, and the rising tide played to the UK’s
strengths. Looking more closely at finance and transport services – sectors in which the EU’s single market is
most advanced – exports grew much more slowly than the average of other advanced economies. If those two
sectors had grown in line with the UK’s peers, services exports would have been 11 percent higher, which is
close to the gap that the gravity models forecast.