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TailWindHome

Über Member
I said this. Did I need to add some emphasis on the word failed?

In any case, the UK failed to send anyone there, so you could really call it a glorified scheme designed to be a bit off putting.

Any desription of the UK scheme which doesn't make clear that even succesful asylum applicants will have been deported to Rwanda by default is, imho, a lie.

That the scheme was never operational changes that not a jot.
 

PurplePenguin

Über Member
Any desription of the UK scheme which doesn't make clear that even succesful asylum applicants will have been deported to Rwanda by default is, imho, a lie.

That the scheme was never operational changes that not a jot.

My apologies that this bit wasn't clear enough for you and amounted to deception "The UK wanted to send all applicants there".

You are correct. The UK wanted to send all applicants there.
 

TailWindHome

Über Member
My apologies that this bit wasn't clear enough for you and amounted to deception "The UK wanted to send all applicants there".

You are correct. The UK wanted to send all applicants there.
....and leave them there irrespective of the outcome of that application

That's the key difference in the scheme
 

PurplePenguin

Über Member
....and leave them there irrespective of the outcome of that application

That's the key difference in the scheme

When the EU sends FAILED applicants there they will not return either, so the only difference is in the status of their application. All of this was in my original post, but I neglected to highlight the word failed.
 

PurplePenguin

Über Member
Quite frankly, any point you have been trying to make is lost in the quagmire. Please state your point without analogies or tangential examples. To possibly save some bother, Rwanda is a bad idea regardless of who is implementing it.

I already did. It's important that EU institutions are held to account and not blindly trusted due to a belief the EU is always right.

Responses to this included unicorns, a regret that the UK can no longer influence EU decisions and some disingenuous arguing that I should have ignored.
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

Timewaster
I already did. It's important that EU institutions are held to account and not blindly trusted due to a belief the EU is always right.

Responses to this included unicorns, a regret that the UK can no longer influence EU decisions and some disingenuous arguing that I should have ignored.

I think you might have not quite got why I brought up the unicorns. FYI, it's possible to believe that the EU is not and never was perfect, but is a generally good thing, and that the UK was daft to leave it, flaws and all. If you can find any references from forumites saying that the EU is always right, I'll grant you the point.
 

PurplePenguin

Über Member
I think you might have not quite got why I brought up the unicorns. FYI, it's possible to believe that the EU is not and never was perfect, but is a generally good thing, and that the UK was daft to leave it, flaws and all. If you can find any references from forumites saying that the EU is always right, I'll grant you the point.

You literally quoted the pope saying it was a gift to humanity. How else should I interpret that? That's what started this whole discussion.
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

Timewaster
You literally quoted the pope saying it was a gift to humanity. How else should I interpret that? That's what started this whole discussion.

You could you also quote me saying "I wouldn't have phrased it like that", and credit me with having a sense of humour, which you ought to know as you tend to read what I've written on this and the Cake Stop thread. Maybe I should be flattered. And maybe I should use more emojis.
 
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PurplePenguin

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You could you also quote me saying "I wouldn't have phrased it like that", and credit me with having a sense of humour, which you ought to know as you tend to read what I've written on this and the Cake Stop thread. Maybe I should be flattered. And maybe I should use more emojis.

The pope said something. You posted it. I made a point about what the pope said. Isn't that how forums work?

So, for clarity, and this is important, no amount of emojis would have made a difference.
 
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briantrumpet

briantrumpet

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The pope said something. You posted it. I made a point about what the pope said. Isn't that how forums work?

So, for clarity, and this is important, no amount of emojis would have made a difference.

Maybe he was trolling. Maybe I was too, which you might have considered. Obviously I have a long history of being pro-EU, but you also ought to know that I've never claimed it's perfect, even if I do think it's generally a force for good, especially in an increasingly fractured world.
 

PurplePenguin

Über Member
Maybe he was trolling. Maybe I was too, which you might have considered. Obviously I have a long history of being pro-EU, but you also ought to know that I've never claimed it's perfect, even if I do think it's generally a force for good, especially in an increasingly fractured world.

Now I'm being blamed for feeding the troll. Anything else? It's hard work.
 
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