Ian H
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Commentary that I've read suggests they made a significant difference each in their own way.
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Commentary that I've read suggests they made a significant difference each in their own way.
BoldonLad
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He may have been “credited” but, did he actually achieve anything positive?
Ian H
Shaman
Gordon Brown and his Chancellor , Alistair Darling, agreed on an emergency package of macro economic policies to deal with the crash. These included a cut in VAT, a substantial programme of public investment in school buildings and other projects. These measures were quickly successful and led to Britain’s economy growing 3.1% between the autumns of 2009 and 2010
https://progressiveeconomyforum.com/development/glossary/brown-gordon/
Dorset Boy
Senior Member
Adding to the pfi disaster.
Short term gain for long term harm. That was Brown's MO
Short term gain for long term harm. That was Brown's MO
bobzmyunkle
Veteran
Keep the expenditure off the govt. books to appease the right wing and they still whinge.
Aren't you in favour of the efficiency of the private sector?
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
Ten years ago today, even Johnson knew.
PurplePenguin
Über Member
That bit has worked surely?
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briantrumpet
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PurplePenguin
Über Member
That one shows a choice has been made surely?
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
Perhaps I could have better phrased it as how you define 'worked'. Back to the tired amputation analogy, but you could say that amputating a leg for an ingrowing toenail 'worked', if your narrow definition of 'worked' is that you no longer have an ingrowing toenail.
PurplePenguin
Über Member
You just need to focus on all the positive decisions that have been made. For example, farmers now need to do stuff for their money. Fishermen need to not do stuff.
midlandsgrimpeur
Prostrate Member
From a fisherman:
“I believe it was 4 January we shipped £47,000 worth of our first shipment of largely ray and dover sole,” he says. “The first thing you have to do is be VAT registered in France. You cannot export into France without that. You’ve got to employ a French accountant to do that for you. The cost of that is £2,000 a month. That first load was held up for five days.”
It was ruined. Under a compensation scheme set up by the government as the disaster unfolded, Rutherford got £11,000 back.
“That was our first encounter,” he says. “You have got other costs: you need a health certificate that costs £85 a go. You need a transport company to do the import documents: £245 a go. So every shipment is an extra £330.
“If you ship three times a week it is a thousand quid. There are other costs. Bearing in mind we are really a husband-and-wife team, it is £70,000 right out of my back pocket. It is horrendous.”
Then there is French customs. “On a health certificate, which is 16 sheets long, you have got eight sheets in English and eight sheets in French,” Rutherford says.
“If you miss one digit of a 10-digit code, your whole shipment is condemned the other side. Since Brexit we have lost about eight loads – anything from £15,000 to £50,000.”
He adds: “A lot of merchants in the south-west of England say: ‘I just can’t do it – it is not worth exporting.’ I’ll be exporting this Friday and I will have all the costs and all the worries until I get an email on Saturday saying customs cleared.” Does he regret his vote? “One hundred per cent – anybody would.
PurplePenguin
Über Member
But the UK government is looking after the fish better.
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briantrumpet
Timewaster
As long as they remember not to stray more than six miles from the coast. TBH, serves fish right if they don't remember to be patriotic.
