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newfhouse

newfhouse

pleb
Pale Rider said:
GB News has been described as 'increasingly influential' by The Guardian.
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As I’ve said previously, GBeebies and TalkTV don‘t need to be commercially viable to succeed in their missions. Influence is the raison d’être and millions of pounds from possibly unhealthy sources is the means of gaining that influence.

Nobody expects the state backed shït stirrers on social media to return a financial profit so why should Legatum or Murdoch?
 
icowden

icowden

Legendary Member
Pale Rider said:
GB News has been described as 'increasingly influential' by The Guardian.
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Nope it hasn't. It has been described as having growing influence over right wing politics as it recruits more Tory MPs and right wing swivel eyed loons. This is not the same thing as being "increasingly influential". For that you need actual viewers. FWIW Sky news has an average of 52,000 viewers and GB news managed 57,000. Not a huge win. What's more concerning is that they have breached OFCOM rules on 3 separate occasions with two more under investigation.

Pale Rider said:
Who'd have thought it?
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It's fairly obvious it was going to recruit more swivel eyed loons.

Pale Rider said:
The paper fairly points out the audience is still very small in overall telly terms, but GB News now 'sometimes' beats other news channels.
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Specifically rolling news channels in the UK which have very small audiences. And we won't mention TalkTV as no-one does.
 
BoldonLad

BoldonLad

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icowden said:
Nope it hasn't. It has been described as having growing influence over right wing politics as it recruits more Tory MPs and right wing swivel eyed loons. This is not the same thing as being "increasingly influential". For that you need actual viewers. FWIW Sky news has an average of 52,000 viewers and GB news managed 57,000. Not a huge win. What's more concerning is that they have breached OFCOM rules on 3 separate occasions with two more under investigation.


It's fairly obvious it was going to recruit more swivel eyed loons.


Specifically rolling news channels in the UK which have very small audiences. And we won't mention TalkTV as no-one does.
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I am not one of the 52,000 or the 57,000.

To assess a change in influence, wouldn't we need viewer figures over a period of time, rather than just a couple of points in time, or, indeed, an average?

Given BBC News viewing figures are claimed at approximately 9 million, increasing or not, the "loons" have a lot of catching up to do (thankfully).

Is it my (lack) of comprehension powers, or, is there a contradiction in this post?
 
icowden

icowden

Legendary Member
BoldonLad said:
I am not one of the 52,000 or the 57,000.
To assess a change in influence, wouldn't we need viewer figures over a period of time, rather than just a couple of points in time, or, indeed, an average?
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Yes - those were average figures taken across a month.

BoldonLad said:
Given BBC News viewing figures are claimed at approximately 9 million, increasing or not, the "loons" have a lot of catching up to do (thankfully).
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:laugh:
BoldonLad said:
Is it my (lack) of comprehension powers, or, is there a contradiction in this post?
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Might be me typing too quickly.
 
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newfhouse

newfhouse

pleb
BoldonLad said:
To assess a change in influence, wouldn't we need viewer figures over a period of time, rather than just a couple of points in time, or, indeed, an average?

Given BBC News viewing figures are claimed at approximately 9 million, increasing or not, the "loons" have a lot of catching up to do (thankfully).
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What if the influence is more complicated than that? What if ‘quality’ broadcasters felt they had to cover the same stories as the right wing loony channels in a misguided attempt to evade being labelled as out of touch with the concerns of the ‘speak your brains’ public? Wouldn’t that be a way of diverting attention from matters that matter to matters that don’t matter? And just to add a conspiratorial cherry on top, what if those put in charge of BBC editorial policy were specifically recruited accomplices?
 
Bromptonaut

Bromptonaut

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newfhouse said:
What if the influence is more complicated than that? What if ‘quality’ broadcasters felt they had to cover the same stories as the right wing loony channels in a misguided attempt to evade being labelled as out of touch with the concerns of the ‘speak your brains’ public? Wouldn’t that be a way of diverting attention from matters that matter to matters that don’t matter? And just to add a conspiratorial cherry on top, what if those put in charge of BBC editorial policy were specifically recruited accomplices?
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That.

Exactly.

The Daily Mail has been doing this for years. Inject something into public debate and see how quickly a politician alights upon it.
 
Pale Rider

Pale Rider

Veteran
Bromptonaut said:
Inject something into public debate
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Shameful behaviour, all Mail hacks should be locked up immediately.
 
BoldonLad

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
South Tyneside
newfhouse said:
What if the influence is more complicated than that? What if ‘quality’ broadcasters felt they had to cover the same stories as the right wing loony channels in a misguided attempt to evade being labelled as out of touch with the concerns of the ‘speak your brains’ public? Wouldn’t that be a way of diverting attention from matters that matter to matters that don’t matter? And just to add a conspiratorial cherry on top, what if those put in charge of BBC editorial policy were specifically recruited accomplices?
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Yes, it could be so... but, given the current viewing figures, I would question the intelligence of (say) the Executive at the BBC responsible for News, if he/she felt they needed to ape the "loons".
 
albion

albion

Guru
Those loons were certainly shown to be loons whilst the BBC simply came out as too earnest.

The world works in mysterious ways.
 
CXRAndy

CXRAndy

Veteran
I don't know anyone who watches TV news anymore. They all get it from online or via video services like YouTube.

There are many independent news outlets spanking the main news for viewing figures.
 
CXRAndy

CXRAndy

Veteran
Nigel Farage has now received the dossier that Coutts compiled on him. He forced Coutts to release this through his lawyers

Coutts basically decided last year to de bank him because of his political stance. He was a net benefit to the bank financially.

They conducted a monthly review of his online postings, kept the post on file.

Investigation into Russia links found no evidence despite keeping the accusations from MP Chris Bryant- who has refused to repeat the words outside parliament.

Farage is now taking legal advice on how to proceed against Coutts and others namely BBC
 
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