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monkers

Legendary Member
You would have to ask B.
I doubt Hoshi Sato could translate your posts!
 
An awful, heartbreaking story. Killed after returning from church with her daughters, one of whom was present. She isn't the first well known Kenyan athlete to be murdered by her partner. There are at least 3 others in the last 5 years, with no convictions to date. There is no justice in Kenya for victims like Rebecca.
 
It seems that the CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre has been defenestrated after a damning report:

https://www.rapecrisisscotland.org....ape-crisis-national-service-standards-report/
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
Which would suggest that trans or gender non conforming people really aren't invading or disrupting protected spaces.

Equally though, we exist.
 
Some of them clearly are. Like the man running Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre, who turned away women who asked for single sex services, told them to reframe their trauma if they didn't want to be around men, and refused to refer them to orgs that were women only. But allowed this man to use its services alongside women.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...n-downing-trans-inclusive-rape-crisis-centre/

The census question was so badly worded as to obviously cause confusion. Newham - 32% Muslim, and the borough with the country's biggest population of English as a second language speakers, turned out to be the transgender capital of the UK according to the census.
 

monkers

Legendary Member
Average hormone levels also vary wildly from person to person according to genetics, developmental and environmental factors, and a host of other variables. So a “normal” male or female testosterone level actually describes a broad range. According to experts, it’s more a rule of thumb than a hard-and-fast metric. It’s far easier than many people seem to think to find AFAB people with naturally “male” T profiles or AMAB people with naturally “female” profiles. People’s testosterone levels also swing around wildly throughout the day and move up and down in response to developments in our lives: Men seem to experience notable dips in T while caring for a new child, for example.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/testosterone-hormone-politics-research/

(posted by N). Comments not invited. I probably won't be interested in replying to negativity.
 
Let's have a closer look at the claims you repeat from the article.

1. "Average hormone levels also vary wildly from person to person according to genetics, developmental and environmental factors, and a host of other variables. So a “normal” male or female testosterone level actually describes a broad range".

Not true. It's a range only within M and F levels. Male and female levels of testosterone hardly ever overlap, even in women with conditions like PCOS.

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2. According to experts, it’s more a rule of thumb than a hard-and-fast metric.

This links to a Guardian article on a doctor who treats prostate cancer in men and Dr Cordelia Fine who says cultural factors affects behaviour more than we acknowledge. The article doesn't support the idea that testosterone levels are 'a rule of thumb'.


3. 'It’s far easier than many people seem to think to find AFAB people with naturally “male” T profiles or AMAB people with naturally “female” profiles'.

Not true. This claim links to an article on Caster Semenya - who has high testosterone levels because they are a male. A male with a dsd, not a female with high testosterone. Semenya's T levels are normal for a male.

4. 'People’s testosterone levels also swing around wildly throughout the day and move up and down in response to developments in our lives: Men seem to experience notable dips in T while caring for a new child, for example'.

The support link is to research that shows male testosterone levels dip in fathers of new born. It does not dip into female T levels and is temporary.
What's your point in listing these articles by journalists with an agender? It's the hope that readers will take them at face value, believe their unevidenced claims, and somehow swallow the line that men with low testosterone are really just the same as women and should therefore be allowed in women's spaces.
 
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