Gender again. Sorry!

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Ian H

Legendary Member
Your not averse to being patronising yourself so bit churlish to complain about that.
You've basically explained that radar keys are now needed and yet seem unable to draw the obvious conclusion from that fact, which is that people will cross boundaries and take advantage if those boundaries aren't a. clear and b. enforced in some way, even if it's only asking 'Those parking spaces/seats/toilets are for disabled people'.

Radar keys are available to anyone.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
Well, we've only got to go back probably 10-15 yrs when everyone knew what a woman was 👍

So, the 2010 era represents the dayes of yore you're after? Very good.
 
Radar keys are available to anyone.

You don't seem to object to anybody having one so presumably you support the men who desire access to the Women's toilets getting one too. I guess I'll just have to take the same attitude as you guys do and say 'It's no skin off my nose if they take up the (disabled) toilet' rather than thinking it should be reserved for those with a disability, visible or invisible. Instead of women moving over, those with disabilities can. And still at no cost to most men. It's a genius plan that avoids men having to deal with the issue. If anybody disabled complains I look forward to them being called prejudiced pearl clutchers.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
No actually I think glory days were pre 1990, but we can't have everything 😀

I suppose not.

Hopefully this will be some solace:

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Transactivism is the patriarchy on steroids.

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When the Communist Party come out in support of the FWS ruling it should make you about think why the mainstream left have abandoned women. The answer is that misogyny is just as prevalent amongst left wing men as amongst right wing ones.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
Transactivism is the patriarchy on steroids.

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When the Communist Party come out in support of the FWS ruling it should make you about think why the mainstream left have abandoned women. The answer is that misogyny is just as prevalent amongst left wing men as amongst right wing ones.

You've got J.K Rowling, Sebastian Coe and Donald Trump on your side (other high profiles folks are available). The f*ck more do you want?
 

bobzmyunkle

Über Member
You've got J.K Rowling, Sebastian Coe and Donald Trump on your side (other high profiles folks are available).

Aaaand, we're back to the black and white way of looking at things.
 
You've got J.K Rowling, Sebastian Coe and Donald Trump on your side (other high profiles folks are available). The f*ck more do you want?

And you've got trans identifying males Martine Rothblatt (net worth $1.1 billion dollars) and Jennifer Pritzker ($2.5 b), Pritzker's brother JB, governor of Arizona ($3.5b) and dozens of other US politicians. You had Biden and Harris. You had a captured NHS and university network. You've got money coming out of your ears and activists who've worked to push institutions and organisations in a pro trans direction for a decade. And yet the more the public find out about transactivism the less popular it is. All that money and you still couldn't over turn material reality.
 

monkers

Squire
I cannot tell you how many times my biologically female and gendered woman lesbian wife has been asked by straight long haired women to leave a women’s changing room because of how she looks and how she dresses. How many times we have been chased after when using a women’s toilet when she has been told to go to the men’s. How many times she has been asked “what are you anyway?” (White) feminism has meant that women can dress and act as they please which leaned heavily on the civil rights won by Black Feminist resistance and Womansim. This Supreme Court ruling means that straight women who perceive that another person doesn’t fit their version of “woman” are then challenged and removed publicly. They call upon the common sense of whiteness’ “right to comfort” to secure power. They call upon the whiteness of the institution to levy patriarchal power against other women. It is stomach churning. What this Supreme Court ruling means is that trans men with gender recognition certificates will now join women in hospital wards, in female toilets, in women only services. Once again middle class white women re-invest in patriarchy and reduce rights for, you guessed it, women! You couldn’t write it. Be sure to grow your hair and look and dress “female” everyone. Gilead’s wives are asserting power. Maybe we should just wear sexually deviant black triangles again. I guess we have to use pride events to protest this all over again so we do not make straight and straight passing women feel uncomfortable.

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monkers

Squire
Thirty demonstrations held across the country in support of trans rights. This one is obviously London. These are obviously not all trans women. Many will be lesbians, who like me, know from experience how it feels to be 'othered', told we are not welcome, told to leave.

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