Gender again. Sorry!

[AuroraSaab]

I agree. I don't think it is helpful at all for UK feminists to align with those who seek to undermine already established rights on abortion and contraception. The vast majority of them aren't doing so but there has been attempt in this thread to present all gender critical folk as aligning with the right wing because they agree, in various degrees, on one issue.

And I doubt very much that is being done for the benefit of feminism. It's being done to undermine the validity of women's concerns by associating those concerns with right wing men.

You didn't say some of them. And whilst I assume you meant 'marching' as a simile the word suggests vociferous and concrete support. I have seen no gender critical people giving outright support to the policies of either the Italian politician mentioned or the US right wing.

Your comment is like me saying the UK left are marching with Putin because Corbyn appears on Russia Today.

 

[multitool]

Sounds like you don't see feminist women as individuals either, they're all just lumped together, and whenever one of them does something you don't like the rest of them are responsible.

You'll be furious when you see how Aurora Saab talks about 'men'.

 

[multitool]

The grift that keeps on giving...

This is Graham Linehan talking about how his income has dwindled after being 'cancelled'.
And yet his cheapest substack subscription is £2.50 a month. So he's getting £7000 a month just for his rancid output on substack.

This is why these people do it. All they need is a few thousand useful idiots.

 

[AuroraSaab]

You'll be furious when you see how Aurora Saab talks about 'men'.

Everybody can be a man now, surely, so you'll have to be more specific.

The grift that keeps on giving...

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This is Graham Linehan talking about how his income has dwindled after being 'cancelled'.
And yet his cheapest substack subscription is £2.50 a month. So he's getting £7000 a month just for his rancid output on substack.

This is why these people do it. All they need is a few thousand useful idiots.

He writes about stuff and people choose to pay to read it. A lot of it is free of course, some of it's paid for; that's the Substack model. That's the same as when you buy a newspaper or magazine. Same as when you post on Cyclechat and earn the owner advertising revenue. He has a deal with a subscription site just like hundreds of thousands of other writers, journalists, celebrities etc.

Maybe you could write a few beloved British sitcoms then people would pay you to write about stuff too rather than having to give away your wisdom for free on here.

 

[winjim]

He sleeps in a racing car. Do you?

 

[multitool]

That's the same as when you buy a newspaper or magazine. Same as when you post on Cyclechat and earn the owner advertising revenue. He has a deal with a subscription site just like hundreds of thousands of other writers, journalists, celebrities etc.

Last time I looked Cycling Weekly wasn't promoting hate

 

[newfhouse]

You didn't say some of them.

I didn’t think it was required. Perhaps I misjudged the audience.

And whilst I assume you meant 'marching' as a simile the word suggests vociferous and concrete support.

I did, but sometimes it is literally true. *

I have seen no gender critical people giving outright support to the policies of either the Italian politician mentioned or the US right wing.

That misses the point. Guilt by association overstates it. It’s more the risk of confusion by association.

Your comment is like me saying the UK left are marching with Putin because Corbyn appears on Russia Today.

As above.

* True of some but not all GCFs.

 

[AuroraSaab]

I agree gender critical feminism would do well to steer clear of any association with right wing organisations. That people are presenting it as a fact that that association is widespread and also unquestioned by feminists is the deliberate confusion.

Again though, I'd say that some people would seek to seize on Corbyn being on Russia Today as a way to tar the Left in general. Yet funnily enough noone on here treats one that individual as representative of the whole Left. There doesn't seem to be a risk of confusion there.

The guilt by association - or engineered confusion - is just a way of undermining and dismissing genuine concerns.

 

[multitool]

"genuine concerns"

LOL.

Got any evidence for your "genuine concern" about PHSE transing 6 year olds yet?

Thought not.

 

[bobzmyunkle]

Guilt by association - playing wingman to the Tool. Who would actually choose to do that?

 

[AuroraSaab]

"genuine concerns"

LOL.

Got any evidence for your "genuine concern" about PHSE transing 6 year olds yet?
Thought not.

There's literally nothing that would make you pause for a minute and think about the impact of gender ideology on young people, girls, and women. Literally nothing. Not men in women's jails or sports, not kids at the Tavistock being rushed into transition, not the growing number of detransitioners.

All I've said on sex education lessons is that outside providers can't always be trusted to provide factual and appropriate content. Why anyone would be against full disclosure and transparency to ensure that what we teach our kids is fact based not ideological I can't imagine. But you know better than the head of Ofsted apparently.

But then you don't care about why there's an increase in teenage girls taking testosterone and having double mastectomies so it's unsurprising that you wouldn't bat an eyelid at the Gender Unicorn.

 

[multitool]

Faux concern for girls as ammunition for your monobore confected obsession. You went down the rabbit hole. The rest of us know this stuff is fantasy and bears no relation to the real world, despite your endless screenshots from transhate sites.

Stay classy.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Like I said, literally nothing.

Review of Newsnight's Hannah Barnes' new book about the Tavistock clinic here:


https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/...inic-hannah-barnes-book-review-cordelia-fine/

From that well known trans hate site The Times Literary Supplement.

 

[multitool]

Funny that the Cass review recommended that Gender identity healthcare needs to be widened and made available regionally and that one of the principal difficulties for Tavistock was its existence as sole provider

If you'd read the actual report first hand rather than what you'd seen on the anti-trans sites you frequent, you'd know this.

You are just like those antivaxxers that spewed out anti-science they had read on conspiracy sites. Everything filtered through the prism of an obsession.

 

[Ian H]

Like I said, literally nothing.

Review of Newsnight's Hannah Barnes' new book about the Tavistock clinic here:


https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/...inic-hannah-barnes-book-review-cordelia-fine/

From that well known trans hate site The Times Literary Supplement.

Like I said, literally nothing.

Review of Newsnight's Hannah Barnes' new book about the Tavistock clinic here:


https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/...inic-hannah-barnes-book-review-cordelia-fine/

From that well known trans hate site The Times Literary Supplement.

That review is not anti-trans. It accuses the clinic of gradual overreach.