I'm highly suspicious of the SEGM.
I wonder if I scratch beneath the surface whether I'll start finding links to and funding from US Christian Evangelical groups and hard-right Conservative pressure groups.
Usual right wing swipe at anybody who questions gender ideology. Including the psychiatrist author who has 50 years experience in the sex/gender field. This is just mud slinging.
The Tavistock isn't being closed because it was too popular to meet demand. The Cass report said a new model of treatment was needed, and the new clinics will be more holistic in approach.
You're right to compare irreversible medical and surgical interventions on adolescents with ect and lobotomies though. They too were enthusiastically promoted as a cure-all without evidence of long-term benefit.
It's an uncomfortable truth that kids were rushed through onto puberty blockers without consideration of other factors like autism or being same sex attracted. Tavistock clinicians said as much. Even more so in the US. I could put the stats up (again) about the ratio of austic and same sex attracted kids that went through the Tavistock but there's literally nothing that gives you pause for thought about the medicalising of children with gender distress so it would be pointless.
We are very good at treating physical issues, but poor at dealing with mental health. Pretending that the mental conditions don't exist isn't helpful, nor is failing to understand that the treatment is evolving.
Hang on. I thought gender was innate and it wasn't a mental health issue, and there's no diagnosis of trans anymore?
The young people referred to GIDS are in a severe state. They need care. It is absolutely right that the care should be assessed, reassessed and evolve.
There are many positives in the Cass report, not least that the service is set for expansion.
Yes, and that care should include consideration of all factors not just gender distress. Most children desist after adolescence, yet the affirmation model puts them on a medical pathway from which it is more difficult to recover. They aren't expanding the Tavistock model.
That particular remark from me was relating to Aurora's misrepresentation and misquotation of something I said months ago. It was a hypothetical statement, which she tried to represent as a statement of opinion.
You said 'Transmen are a subset of men' in the full quote, but haven't responded to my request that you expand on whether you think trans people actually are the opposite sex all the time, or if sometimes they aren't but sometimes they are.
You'll note that she has ceased to pursue this argument, as I think the penny finally dropped.
I've had a very busy day so I wouldn't read anything into my not posting other than that, plus it's going over the same stuff re the Tavistock that we have discussed at least once already.
They aren't expanding the service to roll out the Tavistock methodology because it was so successful. They are developing a holistic approach that leaves behind the affirmation model in favour of one that looks at all aspects of a child's background, not just gender distress. Which is as it should be for all patients, but especially children.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...ity-clinic-accused-fast-tracking-young-adults
