monkers
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Not all women have children though. It is not a requirement to have children to be a woman.
Gender again. Sorry!
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Not all women have children though. It is not a requirement to have children to be a woman.
Milzy
Well-Known Member
Freedom of choice but men and women who actively choose not to have children have failed to do their job that nature intended.
qigong chimp
Settler of gobby hash.
Groan.
multitool
Shaman
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newfhouse
pleb
qigong chimp
Settler of gobby hash.
Don't know much about Geography
Don't know much Teleology
Don't know much about Algebra
Don't know what a slide rule is for
Don't know much Teleology
Don't know much about Algebra
Don't know what a slide rule is for
Rusty Nails
Country Member
But he does know one and one is three.
fozy tornip
fozympotent
It's all compromise isn't it?
I say leave ladies to their lavs as long as we can have a share of post-natal depression .
I say leave ladies to their lavs as long as we can have a share of post-natal depression .
multitool
Shaman
Dear oh dear...turns out the 2nd place competitor doesn't give a toss if the winner was trans and has made a point of saying so, publically, after becoming aware of all the transphobes, like Aurora, spreading lies
https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/05/22/lesley-mumford-lindsey-kriete-cycling-race-trans/
Whoops
Is it OK for me to dismiss the distortion you posted above as "evidence"?
AuroraSaab
Legendary Member
So what if one athlete doesn't care that she was beaten by a male in the female category? Every woman in that competition was bumped down a place because Mumford was allowed to compete. Since when has the principle of fairness been based on the feelings of any individual athlete?
A survey by the CPA found over 90% of professional women cyclists were against men being allowed to race in the female category.
https://archive.ph/2022.04.12-12481...nst-trans-women-according-to-survey-d2nhxkn9v
There are probably riders who didn't mind being beaten by doped cyclists in the Tour de France. Funnily enough they can't consent on every other athlete's behalf.
Here's a few more of the 'things that never happen' according to you, which happened this week:
Trans runner Athena Ryan took 2nd in the Girls 1600m at a State Championship qualifier meeting in Dublin, California. 4th place senior, Adeline Johnson lost the chance to advance to the State Championships by 1 spot.
Trans cyclist Chelsea Woolfe is through to the finals of the BMX World Championship in Montpelier. Angie Morino misses out.
https://twitter.com/i_heart__bikes
Park run records being broken by males in the female category:
https://twitter.com/mara_yamauchi
Doesn't matter if it is high school or college level, professional sport or amateur level, allowing men to enter the female category displaces female athletes.
As usual though, here you are cheering it on.
A survey by the CPA found over 90% of professional women cyclists were against men being allowed to race in the female category.
https://archive.ph/2022.04.12-12481...nst-trans-women-according-to-survey-d2nhxkn9v
There are probably riders who didn't mind being beaten by doped cyclists in the Tour de France. Funnily enough they can't consent on every other athlete's behalf.
Here's a few more of the 'things that never happen' according to you, which happened this week:
Trans runner Athena Ryan took 2nd in the Girls 1600m at a State Championship qualifier meeting in Dublin, California. 4th place senior, Adeline Johnson lost the chance to advance to the State Championships by 1 spot.
Trans cyclist Chelsea Woolfe is through to the finals of the BMX World Championship in Montpelier. Angie Morino misses out.
https://twitter.com/i_heart__bikes
Park run records being broken by males in the female category:
https://twitter.com/mara_yamauchi
Doesn't matter if it is high school or college level, professional sport or amateur level, allowing men to enter the female category displaces female athletes.
As usual though, here you are cheering it on.
multitool
Shaman
Ah, using the word 'athlete' now, rather than 'woman'.
Obviously the wrong sort of woman, eh Aurora? Women only count when it suits you.
'One' athlete, maybe, but it's the one who came second, and therefore had the most to lose.
So funny that you completely ignore your post was 100% lie.
Milzy
Well-Known Member
Dear oh dear...turns out the 2nd place competitor doesn't give a toss if the winner was trans and has made a point of saying so, publically, after becoming aware of all the transphobes, like Aurora, spreading lies
https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/05/22/lesley-mumford-lindsey-kriete-cycling-race-trans/
Whoops
Is it OK for me to dismiss the distortion you posted above as "evidence"?
I’ll get my head kicked in on the local mens crits. My friend Jo is a lovely women. I could join her race team as trans to get on the podium. They are not transphobes so shouldn’t give a toss.
classic33
Senior Member
I'm going to ask, mainly because you don't answer indirect questions, were you at an all girls school, and did you make certain that your daughter(s)* did likewise. Thereby ensuring single sex spaces?
*Can't have had boys as your pushing for one set of single sex spaces. Boys/men will just have to accept "everyone" else in their spaces.
AuroraSaab
Legendary Member
Jesus. You're reduced to pedantry about words rather than addressing the issue because you have no arguments left to justify men in the women's category.
How is it '100% lie'? Do you know how the other women athletes who were beaten felt? What about the 92% of pro women cyclists who don't want men competing in their races? One woman's view trumps that I suppose.
Sex is only relevant on occasion, Classic. In education it's not relevant most of the time in terms of teaching. Obviously relevant in terms of changing rooms and toilets.
Do 11 year old boys and girls need to be separated for Geography lessons? No. Does that mean they should share PE changing rooms and toilets? Sometimes sex is relevant.
I don't reply to all your questions because frankly I don't know what you are on about half the time. You seem very bitter though.
classic33
Senior Member
Why not answer the, very simple, direct question asked of you? Not that hard to understand, as you're always claiming.
I sound bitter!
Read back through your own posts, then say I sound bitter.
It's confusion more than being bitter. You've hopped from one thing to another, often leaving one argument when it no longer suits you. You've even used the same examples to prove both sides of your problem.
If you're in a single sex school, there'd be no members of the opposite sex there to share lessons with, much less changing areas, and your favorite place, toilets.
Some schools extend this single sex theme in their staff as well.
