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1. Unless you tell me their name I can't really answer. If you are talking about intersex athletes, that is a medical condition and an entirely different thing altogether.

2. Yes, it's the law. The self-ID law. And it shouldn't be the law because women are not safe when housed with violent men.

3. Lots of them. A worryingly high number of those referred to gender clinics as children are autistic, gay, or have mental health issues. Children in care are also overrpresented in the numbers. It's almost as If these kids have a whole load of other stuff going on that might be influencing their decision making. All the more reason for thorough evaluation and 'watchful waiting' as most kids don't persist after going through puberty.
Limerick Prison is a mixed, medium security prison. Meaning Barbie isn't the only female in the prison. There's another 25 women in there.
 
It's not a mixed prison. There's a main male building and a separate women's section.

Here's the latest probation report on Barbie Kardashian. Read what they would like to do to their mother's genitals with a screwdriver. They have a guard on their door 24/7 because they say stuff like this.

Wouldn't BK be better in a unit for transwomen where more freedom might be allowed and it might be possible to receive some psychiatric care, rather than heavily supervised in a women's wing because they are so dangerous? This would both protect women and help BK.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40928486.html
 
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It's not a mixed prison. There's a main male building and a separate women's section.

Here's the latest probation report on Barbie Kardashian. Read what they would like to do to their mother's genitals with a screwdriver. They have a guard on their door 24/7 because they say stuff like this.

Wouldn't BK be better in a unit for transwomen where more freedom might be allowed and it might be possible to receive some psychiatric care, rather than heavily supervised in a women's wing because they are so dangerous? This would both protect women and help BK.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40928486.html
Barbie has been in isolation since entering Limerick, away from other prisoners.

Limerick is a medium security, not high security prison. That would mean a transfer to Dublin, high security female prison.
 
And the reason for that is that they are an violent adult male in a women's prison. If it wasn't for self-ID they'd be in a male prison or male psychiatric ward and probably have more freedom.
 
And the reason for that is that they are an violent adult male in a women's prison. If it wasn't for self-ID they'd be in a male prison or male psychiatric ward and probably have more freedom.
He wasn't the person who made the application for the Gender Recognition Certificate. Being underage at the time it involved going through the courts, and having the decision, to allow it, made there. It was made for him, not by him.

She is in a woman's prison(isolation in a medium security prison) because she is a violent woman.
 
Doubt they could force a Gender Recognition Certificate on someone against their will. We'll have to disagree on the second point because they are male - there is nothing that makes BK different from any other of the 40 billion men on the planet.

I think your understandable compassion for people with mental health issues blinds you to the wider implications of self-ID. You used he/him 3 times in your post so I don't think you really believe they are female either.
 
I'm going to introduce a concept that will blow Aurora's mind:

outlier.

We base safeguarding on risk. The law was rightly changed after Dunblane and Shipman, despite them being individual 'outliers'. Men who identify as women pose at least the same risk to women and girls as every other man does.

Women and girls are at higher risk in unisex spaces. We all know this. Self-ID makes every space a unisex space because legally there will be no grounds to exclude any man.
 
Transwomen actually have a higher rate of sex offending than other non trans men. And of course a far, far higher rate of sex offending than women. There's no evidence that a man identifying as a woman is less likely to offend than any other man. They have male patterns of offending.... why wouldn't they?

You then have to consider whether that's because:

1. Transwomen are more likely to be sex offenders than other men, and vastly more likely to be sex offenders than women.

2. Some men will say they are women in order to get softer sentences and a place in a women's prison - ie. they are abusing the self-ID process.

3. A bit of both 1 and 2.

But if you insist that men are women simply because they say so, then it's Number 1.
 
Doubt they could force a Gender Recognition Certificate on someone against their will. We'll have to disagree on the second point because they are male - there is nothing that makes BK different from any other of the 40 billion men on the planet.

I think your understandable compassion for people with mental health issues blinds you to the wider implications of self-ID. You used he/him 3 times in your post so I don't think you really believe they are female either.
We can only guess at that, but the law in Ireland excluded him, due to being a minor, from applying himself.

Nothing blinding me on this, and I have said there must have something else going on when he came to the attention of authorities at the age of 12. I have used he/him when the situation referred to him before the certificate applied for and given, her/she since she was granted the certificate.

And it seems as though we were both wrong on the number of women in Limerick prison. 48 women held there, as of yesterday. With no separate record kept of transwomen numbers.
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https://www.irishprisons.ie/informa...s-information/2015-daily-prisoner-population/
 
Transwomen actually have a higher rate of sex offending than other non trans men. And of course a far, far higher rate of sex offending than women. There's no evidence that a man identifying as a woman is less likely to offend than any other man. They have male patterns of offending.... why wouldn't they?

You then have to consider whether that's because:

1. Transwomen are more likely to be sex offenders than other men, and vastly more likely to be sex offenders than women.

2. Some men will say they are women in order to get softer sentences and a place in a women's prison - ie. they are abusing the self-ID process.

3. A bit of both 1 and 2.

But if you insist that men are women simply because they say so, then it's Number 1.
You have access to the figures/data to back the above up?
 
This article says there have been only 11 women jailed for sex offences in Ireland since 2007. The research data reference is in the notes at the bottom but is behind a pay wall.

So that's 11 women in 15 years. Yet there were 3 transwomen jailed for sex related offences in the space of just a few years since self-ID was introduced. You could argue that biological women sex offenders are more likely to receive non custodial sentences but it's still a huge discrepancy.

Looks like the transwoman caught with thousands of child abuse images was released before Christmas.


https://www.oneinfour.ie/blog/break...007, there have been,sexual offences in 20186.
 
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