Gender again. Sorry!

[CXRAndy]

We'd all realised. But, this particular troll hasn't realised he is being trolled back.

You carry on sweetie 🥰

 

[AuroraSaab]

Two people better qualified than me share opinion on the matter....
Brooke Forde an Olympic silver medalist, said of Thomas that: "I believe that treating people with respect and dignity is more important than any trophy or record will ever be, which is why I will not have a problem racing against Lia at NCAAs this year"

Another swimmer, Olympic silver medalist Erica Sullivan, spoke in support of Thomas in an opinion piece for Newsweek.

And many other female athletes feel differently. You must appreciate that younger athletes are under huge pressure to comply with the push for inclusion? They risk losing scholarships, sponsors, and support from their colleges if they speak out. And even older ones in the US know they lose media work and sponsors if they aren't on board. Of course once they've retired they have no sports prizes to lose so perhaps the level playing field for current athletes matters less to them anyway.

 

[multitool]

You carry on sweetie 🥰

I doubt your appeal will last tbh. Your troll-fu is weak.

 

[monkers]

The intent is irrelevant. Accidental or unintentional unfair advantage is still unfair advantage.

Yes it is, but intentionally taking doping agents is intent to cheat.

Armstrong was judged a cheat and banned.

Frome was judged not to be a cheat and is still racing.

Both had traces of doping agents in their blood.

 

[CXRAndy]

Yes it is, but intentionally taking doping agents is intent to cheat.

Armstrong was judged a cheat and banned.

Frome was judged not to be a cheat and is still racing.

Both had traces of doping agents in their blood.

You really have no clue. Armstrong was taking EPO, storing his blood in fridges to evade detection.

Froome was taking Salbutamol, which the autothories made critical errors in chemical analysis.

You gloss over facts to suit your dreams

 

[monkers]

I think it time to restate a part of my opening post to this thread because inevitably it has been forgotten ...

I'm not aware of any contributors themselves being trans.
This so-called debate is not the battle between trans people and cis people as often thought. Indeed not, it is a battle between the beliefs of groups of cis people with varying beliefs. Broadly there are two groups; the feminists to the left, and the gender critical people from the right. It is not that all feminists are trans exclusionary, nor are the groupings from the right - but gender critical people from various parts of the political spectrum have joined forces.

Perhaps in this context, people might begin to understand the frustration of the trans community, they are not often invited to 'the debate', they are left voiceless unless they themselves become noisy, and when they do they tend to be condemned for being so.

The media are not helpful to the discussion, they relish sensationalism. The headlines say it all. Witness their sensationalism and thirst for anti-cycling propaganda!

The polarisation on this topic is inevitable and as unfathomable to some as the God Paradox. You know God can do anything so he can lift anything; God can do anything so he can make a mountain so heavy that even God can't lift it. God doesn't leave clues though on how to figure this one out; so maybe not quite as perfect as some think? Whatever, please don't get exercised on the point, it's just an imperfect analogy.

For some the so-called 'trans debate' is consciously or unconsciously linked to their 'belief' or their 'indoctrination' depending upon your paradigm - no disrespect intended to folks whatever their religious beliefs happen to be. Remember it's just an imperfect analogy.

When we look at what this thread has become, it was all in there.

Groups of people arguing over the rights of another group without listening to them or permitting their involvement.

Journalists looking for a story to sensationalise or use for clickbait on the internet.

God fearing people using the bible as their shield for their bigotry, even mentioning death as appropriate. The God paradox - God made trans people, God says trans people are abominable. People should stone them to death.

And trolls known for their sad and lonely lives. Loneliness can have devastating consequences, ask a trans person.

 

[multitool]

Froome was taking Salbutamol, which the autothories made critical errors in chemical analysis.

Monkers is correct. @CXRAndy

Armstrong was banned on the testimony of others. Froome had an AAF of a permitted substance but double the permitted level. Sky claimed they would do a pharmacokinetic study to show how it could be possible for such an overshoot to occur, because normally it would not be possible via an inhaler. They only got away with it because WADA accepted that Sky couldn't replicate the condition of the Vuelta. It stunk to high-heaven. The "autothories" did not make critical errors in chemical analysis.

Also...

You really have no clue. Armstrong was taking EPO, storing his blood in fridges to evade detection.

Armstrong was not storing blood in fridges to "evade detection" you idiot

 

[CXRAndy]

Armstrong was banned on the testimony of others.

He confessed due to Landis pointing the finger at him. It was the upcoming court case that forced Armstrong to admit his crimes before the hearing.

He basically, admitted his guilt- but on his terms

 

[multitool]

He confessed due to Landis pointing the finger at him. It was the upcoming court case that forced Armstrong to admit his crimes before the hearing.

He basically, admitted his guilt- but on his terms

He confessed because the statute of limitations meant that whereas the lies he told in the SCA case in the mid 2000s could no longer result in perjury charges, any perjury he commited in Landis's forthcoming False Claims Act prosecution against him would. By that time he had already been banned for life so the perjury would be obvious.

As ever, you aren't all over the details, just the sound bites.

 

[qigong chimp]

Armstrong was not storing blood in fridges to "evade detection" you idiot

Are we sure about this? That's where I conceal my yoghurt and beer, and WADA have yet to cotton on.

 

[multitool]

If they come for you, climb in amongst your yogurt pots, beer bottles and horse heads.

If it worked for Armstrong it'll work for you.

 

[CXRAndy]

If they come for you, climb in amongst your yogurt pots, beer bottles and horse heads.

If it worked for Armstrong it'll work for you.

Multitool wrote

Armstrong was not storing blood in fridges to "evade detection" you idiot

Dope

The report also describes how Landis had to "babysit" blood, which was being stored in a refrigerator hidden in a wardrobe in the master bedroom of Armstrong's apartment, whilst the cyclist went away on a training trip.

This involved checking the temperature of the blood every day.

https://news.sky.com/story/armstrong-stored-his-blood-in-a-fridge-10467515#:~:text=The report also describes how,of the blood every day.

 

[CXRAndy]

Tool been on too much gear, addled his brain, shrunk his nut

Prime candidate

 

[multitool]

Multitool wrote

Armstrong was not storing blood in fridges to "evade detection" you idiot

Dope

It was hidden in a wardrobe to avoid detection. Not a fridge.

It was in a fridge because blood needs to be refrigerated.

Christ.

 

[CXRAndy]

Armstrong was not storing blood in fridges to "evade detection" you idiot

The report also describes how Landis had to "babysit" blood, which was being stored in a refrigerator hidden in a wardrobe

It was hidden in a wardrobe to avoid detection. Not a fridge.

It was in a fridge because blood needs to be refrigerated.

Christ.

So it was in a fridge which was hidden. How pendant and dense, a true ideologue.