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Does the silent majority vote?

Results speak for themselves
 
70% of Ireland agreed with me, so what you think is irrelevant

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Not even true.
Current population is 5,056,935.
Turnout was 44.36%, of which 67.7% voted No.
The population under 18 was estimated at 23.2% of the total population in 2023.
Those under the age of 18 didn't have a vote on Friday.

How does that equate to 70% of Ireland agreeing with you?

You should of course also note that any "result" timed before 18:00 today, will not be an official result.
 
The protection racket argument again:
'Stick with the men who call you vagina owners and chest feeders, the men who push for men to be in your sports, prisons, and refuges ...... because if you don't other men might take your right to abortion'.

"You do not have anything to teach us about 'the other men'. We know, but here you are, suggesting we're in with them because we've said no to you. You are the same".

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1584862070008582145.html

"Actually find it really upsetting - that so many men who claim to care about women's rights look at what is happening with Roe v Wade and think "what can I get out of this? How can I use it to shame women I don't like and pressure them to accept my terms or not have my support?""
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1521810882413662209.html
Why do the links go to a blog, not X?
 

icowden

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Does anyone know why the change was rejected? Are we just putting this down to the power of the Catholic church or is there something else going on? There appears to be a lack of analysis from the reports I've seen.
From what I've seen, people were unhappy that the proposed wording was vague and confusing and also seemed to suggest that families should be looking after people and not the state. Other analysis is that there was a push for the vote to be on mothering Sunday rather than in May which would have given more time to convey to people what they were voting on.l
 
From what I've seen, people were unhappy that the proposed wording was vague and confusing and also seemed to suggest that families should be looking after people and not the state. Other analysis is that there was a push for the vote to be on mothering Sunday rather than in May which would have given more time to convey to people what they were voting on.l
The date of the vote was always going to be on International Women's Day, with the official result returned on Mothers Day. This in an attempt to prove(say) that the vote on Article 41 was about women.

The vote wouldn't have been held on a Sunday in Ireland.
 
Perhaps people viewed it as an attempt to erase the word mother from the constitution in a country still coming to terms with the horrific legacy of the mother and baby homes, and replace it with a vague phrase where the legal meaning was unclear. It was quite a rushed referendum too and perhaps there was a bit of pushback against the way government funded NGO's campaigned aggressively for Yes.
I'm just going on comments from Irish Twitter, but it seems to have got people's backs up for all sorts of reasons, across the political spectrum.

Exit polls show that young people were as likely to vote No as older ones so I'm not sure the influence of the Catholic Church was major.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...isfree/2024/mar/10/ireland-no-vote-referendum

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I've read this referendum to circumvent the gender referendum which was shelved due to backlash.

Eradication of the word mother.

In certain areas 96% voted no.

This is the backlash when governments try and force objectional policies on the general public.

Trans has gone too far and the public are not standing for it.

Member's bill is trying to define sex, amend the equality act and ban men from women's spaces/sports. Doubt it will get past the first stage due to late reading
 
I've read this referendum to circumvent the gender referendum which was shelved due to backlash.

Eradication of the word mother.

In certain areas 96% voted no.

This is the backlash when governments try and force objectional policies on the general public.

Trans has gone too far and the public are not standing for it.

Member's bill is trying to define sex, amend the equality act and ban men from women's spaces/sports. Doubt it will get past the first stage due to late reading
Where was the 96% turnout?

There were two seperate issues being voted on on Friday.
 
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Go look on X

The Irish are posting about it. According to posters this is the worst defeat/s the Irish government has ever had
 
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