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AndyRM

Elder Goth
What's taking up all their time now then? What is it that's stopping proper conviction rates for rapists, or other proper police work?

Because it isn't just this. But that's how it's being framed.
 

Mr Celine

Well-Known Member
We are talking about Scotland, remember.

Reported as a racist hate crime.

;)
 
Poor rape conviction rate is down to lack of time, officers, and resources I expect. Which won't be helped by having hundreds of anonymous hate crimes to look in to. The staff hours will have to come from somewhere.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
Poor rape conviction rate is down to lack of time, officers, and resources I expect. Which won't be helped by having hundreds of anonymous hate crimes to look in to. The staff hours will have to come from somewhere.

Yes, but why aren't they coming from somewhere now? That's the real question I'd have thought?

Or, more appropriately, why does the government keep cutting police funding and expecting forces to be able to do their "proper" jobs.
 
The conviction rate for rape is around 65/70% in England and Wales which is quite a bit better than Scotland despite, I think, higher spending per head on law and order. Perhaps they aren't spending their money as efficiently. And now they've got a load of thought policing to do for the same budget...
 
The conviction rate for rape is around 65/70% in England and Wales which is quite a bit better than Scotland despite, I think, higher spending per head on law and order. Perhaps they aren't spending their money as efficiently. And now they've got a load of thought policing to do for the same budget...
Similar, earlier, legislation in England didn't seem to have the effect you're claiming.
Murders, theft, assaults and various other crimes all have lower detection rates. And always other crime types are blamed.
 

icowden

Squire
Poor rape conviction rate is down to lack of time, officers, and resources I expect. Which won't be helped by having hundreds of anonymous hate crimes to look in to. The staff hours will have to come from somewhere.
Also chronic underfunding. It can take a rape case years to actually get to court in some cases. This means that memories have become fuzzy, witness statements forgotten etc which in turn can make it harder to secure a conviction.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
The conviction rate for rape is around 65/70% in England and Wales which is quite a bit better than Scotland despite, I think, higher spending per head on law and order. Perhaps they aren't spending their money as efficiently. And now they've got a load of thought policing to do for the same budget...

Ah. So the Scottish government isn't spending its money efficiently.

Because other UK governments (devolved or otherwise) are spending their reduced budgets so wonderfully well.
 

multitool

Pharaoh
Rowling is making a bit of a fool of herself on this one. Nothing she has said historically would breach the new law (AIUI), were she to repeat them.

Maybe she's worried that hate rallies such as those organised by Minshull could have their wings clipped.
 
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Rowling is making a bit of a fool of herself on this one. Nothing she has said historically would breach the new law (AIUI), were she to repeat them.

Maybe she's worried that hate rallies such as those organised by Minshull could have their wings clipped.

It depends on the officer's opinion.

I think she has played it beautifully, Sunak has backed her publicly too.

The Scottish bill has been neutered, unless Cat Stevens demands officers go after her.

Phew, we can all carry on calling men, men :biggrin:
 

multitool

Pharaoh
It depends on the officer's opinion.

No it doesn't.

I think she has played it beautifully, Sunak has backed her publicly too.

I haven't seen what Sunak has said, but clearly he will be playing the culture war game.

The Scottish bill has been neutered, unless Cat Stevens demands officers go after her.

Phew, we can all carry on calling men, men :biggrin:

I'm afraid you are just demonstrating your ignorance with this. You really should change you 'news' sources if you want to stop looking like a perpetual fool.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
It depends on the officer's opinion.

I think she has played it beautifully, Sunak has backed her publicly too.

The Scottish bill has been neutered, unless Cat Stevens demands officers go after her.

Phew, we can all carry on calling men, men :biggrin:

So, you've gone from "Oh noes, Scotland is dooooomed" to "Lollercaust, it's all fine after all".

What a surprise.

Must have had a nice ride with your bulls and otters this morning!
 

multitool

Pharaoh
I'm particularly enjoying the notion that a few misguided tweets from a billionaire cult member has "neutered" the law.
 
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