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AndyRM

Elder Goth
All the "new" law (in Scotland) is doing is adding some more "protected characteristics" to existing hate crime laws. It's really nothing to get worked up about.

It's not especially funny either, in a way it's quite sad that these amendments have been made.
 
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All the "new" law (in Scotland) is doing is adding some more "protected characteristics" to existing hate crime laws. It's really nothing to get worked up about.

It's not especially funny either, in a way it's quite sad that these amendments have been made.

It's going to make Scotland judiciary and political figures a laughing stock.

There will be literally thousands upon thousands of petty complaints made. Same amount of non hate incidents recorded. Then hundreds, if not thousands of a subject access requests on these NHI logs. Then hundreds of court cases to sue the Scottish police to remove the report.

Proper policing (what's left of it) will be drowned and feeling policing will consume endless time
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
It's going to make Scotland judiciary and political figures a laughing stock.

There will be literally thousands upon thousands of petty complaints made. Same amount of non hate incidents recorded. Then hundreds, if not thousands of a subject access requests on these NHI logs. Then hundreds of court cases to sue the Scottish police to remove the report.

Proper policing (what's left of it) will be drowned and feeling policing will consume endless time

Hold on, you said you thought all this was nonsense and funny? So why the concern?

What's "proper policing" anyway? Bobbys on the beat giving young rogues a clip around the ear for scrumping apples?
 
It's a vague and ill-considered sledgehammer of a law that relies not on a law having been broken but on whether someone feels offended.

You won't know if a hate crime has been recorded against your name. Reports can be anonymous so there will be no way to tell if a complainant is making many vexatious complaints or if they are using the law to punish or harm someone they don't like.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
So virtually all of these vague sledgehammers are a joke.

Fluidity really is being thoroughly embraced today!

Lovely to see.
 
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It's been reported that this law will be weaponised to cause disruption and inconvenience to settle petty scores.

I don't expect it will be long before information on the amount of complaints being made and the legal redress.

There are a few police who have had a few hours training, who then decide on their opinion if a NHI has been committed.

Vagure doesn't even begin to cover the mess this will cause.

The Scottish police/government will drown under this
 
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This law is less than 12hrs old and already the head of Scottish policing is saying that the public will lose trust in the police.
 

Rusty Nails

Country Member
Hold on, you said you thought all this was nonsense and funny? So why the concern?

What's "proper policing" anyway? Bobbys on the beat giving young rogues a clip around the ear for scrumping apples?

Never did me any harm. I used to enjoy a friendly clip around the ear from our local Bobby.

Bunch of snowflakes today.
 
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Easily believable, some other national could be offended at not being a mighty Englishman

:biggrin:
 
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Probably trust in police is at all time low, with regular reports of corruption and abuse by police.

Adding an what is effectively a snitch law will do no good in police relationship with the general public.

Only the police's response to this law and how they go about logging and prosecuting will be the litmus test
 
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