Gender again. Sorry!

[icowden]

Capture them young, easier to indoctrinate.

Yes, in the USA they have been doing that with religion for over 200 years.

In other news, I have found conclusive evidence that Tarzan was transgender (according to his writer Edgar Rice Burroughs)

Tarzan was puzzled. There was something wrong. His arm dropped from the shoulder of Teeka. Very slowly he drew away from her. She looked at him with her head cocked upon one side. Tarzan rose to his full height and beat upon his breast with his fists. He raised his head toward the heavens and opened his mouth. From the depths of his lungs rose the fierce, weird challenge of the victorious bull ape. The tribe turned curiously to eye him. He had killed nothing, nor was there any antagonist to be goaded to madness by the savage scream. No, there was no excuse for it, and they turned back to their feeding, but with an eye upon the ape-man lest he be preparing to suddenly run amuck.

Yes! Tarzan has breasts!

The trans movement has even infiltrated the bible.

13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner

Flippin Gospel according to St Luke 18:13!

 

[monkers]

Yes, in the USA they have been doing that with religion for over 200 years.

In other news, I have found conclusive evidence that Tarzan was transgender (according to his writer Edgar Rice Burroughs)


Yes! Tarzan has breasts!

The trans movement has even infiltrated the bible.

Flippin Gospel according to St Luke 18:13!

Also now St.John.

Good digging btw.

 

[CXRAndy]

I don't think they advocate chopping bits off their body, irreversible drug treatments

 

[icowden]

I don't think they advocate chopping bits off their body, irreversible drug treatments

No-one said that they did. What was pointed out is that breast is not a gender specific term. It's pretty synonymous with chest.

 

[AuroraSaab]

We all know about terms like breastplate, breaststroke, and occasionally use of 'breast' referring to males in fiction. If it was regarded as a generic term in ordinary modern usage - that applies to both sexes - there would be no need for St John Ambulance to say 'people with breasts' would there? They'd just say 'people'. It's obvious they meant women as they then qualified it with 'less likely than men' in the next sentence.

If 'breast' is a gender free word you wouldn't get trans activists trying to get breastfeeding renamed chest feeding.

Seb Coe didn't get the IOC job unfortunately but World Athletics are introducing mandatory cheek swab testing for female comps. Let's hope this marks another step towards fairness across the board for girls and women's sports.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.s...-sex-testing-for-female-competitions-13335486

 

[monkers]

We all know about terms like breastplate, breaststroke, and occasionally use of 'breast' referring to males in fiction. If it was regarded as a generic term in ordinary modern usage - that applies to both sexes - there would be no need for St John Ambulance to say 'people with breasts' would there? They'd just say 'people'. It's obvious they meant women as they then qualified it with 'less likely than men' in the next sentence.

If 'breast' is a gender free word you wouldn't get trans activists trying to get breastfeeding renamed chest feeding.

Seb Coe didn't get the IOC job unfortunately but World Athletics are introducing mandatory cheek swab testing for female comps. Let's hope this marks another step towards fairness across the board for girls and women's sports.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.s...-sex-testing-for-female-competitions-13335486

If 'breast' is a gender free word you wouldn't get trans activists trying to get breastfeeding renamed chest feeding.

They're not. That's a lie. That's what make it such a 'you' story.

 

[CXRAndy]

World Athletics are introducing mandatory cheek swab testing for female comps. Let's hope this marks another step towards fairness across the board for girls and women's sports.

That is excellent news

 

[icowden]

If 'breast' is a gender free word you wouldn't get trans activists trying to get breastfeeding renamed chest feeding.

Have to agree a little with @monkers on this one. There is an NHS page on chestfeeding explaining that it refers to the possibility of still being able to feed a baby after you have had breast removal - usually used by people who are transgender, but not exclusively so. It's can be due to a medical condition although apparently some trans people prefer the term to breastfeeding.

I'm not sure that there is any movement to rename breastfeeding, just a move to add/permit an alternative synonym for those who find the usual term "triggering".

 

[classic33]

We all know about terms like breastplate, breaststroke, and occasionally use of 'breast' referring to males in fiction. If it was regarded as a generic term in ordinary modern usage - that applies to both sexes - there would be no need for St John Ambulance to say 'people with breasts' would there? They'd just say 'people'. It's obvious they meant women as they then qualified it with 'less likely than men' in the next sentence.

If 'breast' is a gender free word you wouldn't get trans activists trying to get breastfeeding renamed chest feeding.

So you're firmly in the camp of breast means women in real life, and men in fiction.

Care to explain why breast cancer in men is on the increase, in the UK. Or are the figures purely a work of fiction.

 

[monkers]

Have to agree a little with @monkers on this one. There is an NHS page on chestfeeding explaining that it refers to the possibility of still being able to feed a baby after you have had breast removal - usually used by people who are transgender, but not exclusively so. It's can be due to a medical condition although apparently some trans people prefer the term to breastfeeding.

I'm not sure that there is any movement to rename breastfeeding, just a move to add/permit an alternative synonym for those who find the usual term "triggering".

All true. Additionally it was NHS Trust Brighton that introduced the term, and not at the insistence of the trans community or trans activists.

Of course one can join the chorus of nutjobs who will say that the NHS is so woke that we need to scrap it, and we must abolish the human rights, and the equality acts, withdraw from the European Convention of Human Rights, the Council of Europe, the WHO, NATO and the United Nations because they are all woke. The USA is on the right course, soon to be like North Korea.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-56007728

 

[AuroraSaab]

All true. Additionally it was NHS Trust Brighton that introduced the term, and not at the insistence of the trans community or trans activists.

The reviewers of the old policy who helped craft the new one included Stonewall, Clare Project (trans org), 2 other pro trans groups, and 7 transgender individuals.

These policies don't spring from nowhere.
They are the result of activists within organisations and the influence of Stonewall. Brighton NHS Trust are full members of Stonewall and have paid them for training in the past. Freddie McConnell is a very famous trans activist.

Of course one can join the chorus of nutjobs who will say that the NHS is so woke that we need to scrap it, and we must abolish the human rights, and the equality acts, withdraw from the European Convention of Human Rights, the Council of Europe, the WHO, NATO and the United Nations because they are all woke. The USA is on the right course, soon to be like North Korea.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-56007728

Literally nobody has said this. It's more of your increasingly ridiculous hyperbole.

 

[AuroraSaab]

Care to explain why breast cancer in men is on the increase, in the UK. Or are the figures purely a work of fiction.

Well there's a lot more men taking female hormones than there used to be. Perhaps that accounts for it?

I see that 10 hours after other outlets picked it up the BBC News website is still ignoring the World Athletics cheek swab story.

 

[monkers]

Literally nobody has said this. It's more of your increasingly ridiculous hyperbole.

So it's not just my mind you read, but everybody else's too? Hyberbole - maybe, I just grow tire of idiots. But I leave the histrionics to you.

But while you are claiming that nobody ever said any of this, you show you are not so read as you think you are.

 

[classic33]

Well there's a lot more men taking female hormones than there used to be. Perhaps that accounts for it?

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Wouldn't they be regarded as women for the figures though. Or, is it you're still not willing to believe the figures?

Sensible answer was beyond you.

 

[AuroraSaab]

In the UK it would depend on how individual NHS trusts were recording them. Just shows how important accurate recording is though. It would skew the data to record them as women and might mean that trans identifying men missed out on being given appropriate info.

It's a perfectly sensible answer btw. If you were that bothered you could have googled it yourself of course.