Xipe Totec
Something nasty in the woodshed
He'll be waiting to find out what Andrew Tate says he should think. That's probably why he's gone quiet.
Gender again. Sorry!
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He'll be waiting to find out what Andrew Tate says he should think. That's probably why he's gone quiet.
CXRAndy
Veteran
I was busy working on my classic Mini 👍
bobzmyunkle
Über Member
Well exactly. I assume you're advocating the as a good thing rather than being ironic?
mickle
New Member
Are you suggesting that those who self ID (don't have a GRC) aren't transwomen?
monkers
Squire
I'm suggesting that you, an intelligent man, has allowed himself to be led down the garden path by the nose.
Self-Id is the process by which a person can obtain a GRC without a medicalised transition process - a process that doesn't exist anywhere in the UK, but does exist in the Republic of Ireland among other countries without creating great difficulties.
I'm not the person for devising labels anywhere least of all how the prison service labels prisoners. I have no responsibility here. However I feel you have a responsibility to present the truth.
The data you've presented is the kind of propaganda that is associated with fascism, and that's why the allegation is often made.
Look again at that data, by extrapolating the data into ''per million'' is a recognised method of misrepresentation. Here it is blatant.
It shows that 92 people who not even trans people are extrapolated to commit more than three times the number of sexual offences as men.
Suddenly 92 becomes more than three time more that 11 odd thousand using this method. And of course the blob chart is used to emphasise the lie.
What the data and associated commentary prove is that the number of trans women with a GRC and therefore legally female that have offended against a woman in a women's space is probably zero. I say that although, enough scraping of the internet tends to find one. And then everything must change for that person, even though to appear as any kind of fact, they must have been caught and dealt with.
For the sake of protecting your own credibility as a person with intelligence, you need to recognise you got this wrong.
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CXRAndy
Veteran
View: https://x.com/SunilSharmaUK/status/1913883571636363506?t=9rEPU3C6kjclACWWXRPZ4w&s=19
Trans ideology are
Weak, flabby, stupid, ignorant, basing their ideas on lies
AuroraSaab
Shaman
Yes, when it comes to crime only men with GRC's get to count as being trans apparently. But when it comes to access to women's spaces the criteria is 'I'm a woman if I say I am'.
This avoids the unfortunate truth that such men display the same pattern of offending as other men, if not worse.
This avoids the unfortunate truth that such men display the same pattern of offending as other men, if not worse.
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monkers
Squire
Alternative short form answer provided by N: ''the law says that people are the sex it says on their birth certificate''.
CXRAndy
Veteran
If a person has changed their birth certificate, it will most likely be changed to reflect their biological sex. So data collection is accurate
AuroraSaab
Shaman
Plainly not true. Self ID causes problems for women.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...ight-wing-extremist-gender-female-prison.html
6ft2" child rapist placed in US women's jail.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.na...rred-trans-child-rapist-to-womens-prison/amp/
We've discussed ad infinitum the violent men in an Irish women's jail.
Still you say self ID causes no problems. This is epic level gaslighting.
Apart from which, this nonsense that you can only be trans with a certificate means there were no transgender people before the GRA in 2004. Nobody before then was trans apparently. It also means there are no trans people in countries that don't recognise them officially. All those dead people Monica keeps transing? Can't be trans now.
They are either all trans because they say they are, or none of them are.
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classic33
Über Member
Which amounts to the grand figure of none. There were two trans-women. Legally women under Irish law.
One a foreign national in the country illegall, by illegal means, deported before their sentence was completed.
Two trans men you wrongly described as trans women. In the male estate in Dublin.
