Gender again. Sorry!

[AndyRM]

Surprise surprise

Children to be tested for autism first before cutting off their body parts

I know you've been keen to equate trans people with mental illness but here's a newsflash that will blow your mind and shatter the world of everything you once held to be true (or whatever snappy headline helps you out here):

Autism isn't a mental illness.

 

[monkers]

View: https://youtu.be/FBMxNsX3VZY

 

[CXRAndy]

Autism isn't a mental illness

Runs high incidence with those children exhibiting body dysphoria.

So they will check for autism before quickly deciding to fast track to transing.

Treat all the other conditions first

 

[AuroraSaab]

I know you've been keen to equate trans people with mental illness but here's a newsflash that will blow your mind and shatter the world of everything you once held to be true (or whatever snappy headline helps you out here):

Autism isn't a mental illness.

35% of children referred to the Tavistock were evaluated as having ASD compared to 2% of the general population. It might not be a mental illness but it's important that the high proliferation of ASD amongst these children is taken into account before they are referred for treatment.

 

[icowden]

Runs high incidence with those children exhibiting body dysphoria.
So they will check for autism before quickly deciding to fast track to transing.
Treat all the other conditions first

And you started so well. They will not, in fact "treat all the other conditions first". What has been recommended is quite sensible. Children will be evaluated to ensure that there is a fully rounded picture of their health conditions including whether or not they are on the autistic spectrum. This should have been done all along as it is essential to understanding the possible cause of gender dysphoria and is a strong indicator that any treatment outside of counselling and mental health support should be delayed until that person is older and has a more rounded understanding both of the world, other people and they way that they think and function.

 

[AndyRM]

Equate away, which however you want to square it with yourselves is exactly what you're doing.

 

[CXRAndy]

If you have a very high incidence of children with autism and body dysphoria.

You do not fast track them to transing.

You get to the root cause of their dysphoria first. In the vast majority of cases, letting the child go through puberty, resolves their dysphoria.


Whats really upsetting for those supporting the methods of the tavistock clinic is, their next generation of trans has been stopped.

This hysterical cultural meltdown will resolve itself now after recent reports, supreme court judgements.

Regrettably there are many thousands destined to be left in the wilderness of abandoned cult ideology with life changing surgery and drug dependency

 

[AndyRM]

Pretty much everything I've ever read of the "fast track" to transitioning has always been presented as I just have, in inverted commas. Because it's nonsense. Of course there are options if that's the (damaging) route you absolutely want to go down, which mainly involve going abroad and paying exorbitant sums of money without any of the necessary mental support in place.

The reality is that responsible clinicians assess cases properly and the whole process takes a seriously long time.

But I suppose that's not as alarmist as the whole Red Queen line of,

"Oh sh!t, this kid says they're trans? That's good enough for me, off with their tits/cock. Sign them up for women's sport while we're at it. Who's next?"

won't get much mileage.

 

[CXRAndy]

The reality is that responsible clinicians assess cases properly and the whole process takes a seriously long time.

Where were the responsible clinicians when tavistock were mutilating children?

 

[AuroraSaab]

The waiting list was long - referrals were doubling each year, with nobody wondering why that might be - but once seen at the Tavistock children were often prescribed puberty blockers after only a few sessions.

Hannah Barnes, Newsnight journalist:

3 to 6 hours is not enough time to assess whether a child with complex issues should be put on a medical pathway. How many of these autistic same sex attracted kids would have resolved their dysphoria if not sent down the medical route?

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/health/2024/03/inside-the-collapse-of-the-tavistock-centre

It's even worse in the US, where cross sex hormones and surgery are pretty much available on demand.