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monkers

Shaman
I quite know what a male and female are. :okay:

Apparently not.

Condition where someone with XX chromosomes can have a prostate gland:

FeatureDescription
Condition Name46,XX Testicular DSD (de la Chapelle Syndrome)
Chromosome ConfigurationXX (typically female)
CauseTranslocation of SRY gene from Y to X chromosome during sperm formation
SRY Gene PresenceYes — triggers male development
Typical Physical DevelopmentMale characteristics: testes, sometimes prostate gland
Prostate GlandMay be present due to male-type development
 

CXRAndy

Legendary Member
Grasping at straws there Monkers


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In rare cases, such as certain intersex conditions or disorders of sexual development (DSD), an individual with XX chromosomes might have atypical genital or reproductive anatomy, but this would not typically include a fully developed prostate.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
With all the raking over N's posts and comments it's no wonder some folk don't see anything utterly bizarre about lurking on niche fetish websites.
 

monkers

Shaman
Grasping at straws there Monkers


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In rare cases, such as certain intersex conditions or disorders of sexual development (DSD), an individual with XX chromosomes might have atypical genital or reproductive anatomy, but this would not typically include a fully developed prostate.

What is proven is your absolutism is grounded in binary logic and an inability to recognise categories and category errors.

I am not in the same category as people on 400 transgender sites (I love that hyperbole). Those people are often married men who identify as men. So in fact that places them in the same category as you, which is the reason the law reflects it that way. Often these men will have sex with women while presenting as men, and have sex with men when presenting as women. When these men are presenting as men, they are men, when they are presenting as women, they remain men. If they express it otherwise, it lives only in the moment. Monkers had a lesbian friend who ''gave up the sisterhood'' to only go out with single cross-dressing men. That's life! She found her path.

Trans women with a GRC are not married men, and do not identify as men. It's impossible for them to think of themselves as men. If they are married they are either in an opposite sex marriage with a man, or a same sex marriage with a woman. The law reflects the category. If I am to marry, the state recognises me as female. I can marry a man in an opposite sex marriage, or a woman in a same sex marriage. If I presented as male and married a woman in the Church of England, that wouldn't be an offence.

You've found your path, it's exceeding arrogant of you to think you have the right to stand in the way of others.
 

CXRAndy

Legendary Member
I dont stand in anyone's way, what they do in private is totally their affair.

What they do out in public can be subject to scrutiny. Eg males trying to access female spaces
 

monkers

Shaman
I dont stand in anyone's way, what they do in private is totally their affair.

What they do out in public can be subject to scrutiny. Eg males trying to access female spaces

You think you are the one to impose a curfew? It is men that are the proximate cause of harm. Why not curfew all of them including yourself?
 

CXRAndy

Legendary Member
That would include all males ;)
 

monkers

Shaman
Please explain the difference between a 'transgender woman' and a 'trans woman'.

Bear in mind that the categories were essentially created by cis folk in academia, not by people included in the transgender monicker. Also bear in mind that monkers spoke to this point in the very first post she made on the forum.

It's almost better to say what transgender isn't. It isn't a category of a unified group.

If I set a group and call it believers, and within it, I include every faith, it doesn't make those faiths all the same. A Witness is not a Muslim.

Transgender is a similar container. The word ''transgender'' has differing definitions and explanations depending on where you look. The nearest to a unifying definition is that it is an umbrella term covering a range of identities. There is some debate about where it includes drag queens. For me drag queens and drag kings are professional performers. That is not to say that they don't enjoy what they do, but it is more related to gay man culture. To do this day, some gay men call each other by women's names, or even ''bitch'', but they do not consider themselves female or women. It's performative. They don't perform this because they despise women.

This range of identities is said to cover HPWs, CDs, TVs, - all of whom say they are men. Sexual preferences are wide, from playing alone, liking women, liking men, liking others like them, to ''lock up your brooms''.

Also under the transgender are trans women - this includes transitioners who have committed to ''the journey'' and those who have transitioned with a GRC. Some trans women complete hormones, surgery, etc, but they don't apply for a GRC, often because they are in a long term marriage where both partners wish to continue the marriage.

The key to understanding is that all people have different motives and drivers.

So trans women with a GRC are a category under transgender and a category under women.

Don't shoot me, I'm only the messenger here answering your question. I wish the answer was more simple.

To refresh about your prison data pictograph, the point made by monkers was this, trans women were not counted by the prison service in the cohort of ''transgender women'' but in the cohort of ''women'' because of the legal distinction in the form of the deeming provision established in the GRA.

Otherwise the data presentation in that pictogram was flawed. Actually not just flawed, but a wilfully manipulative representation of the official data.

If you care about your credibility, you'll care about the truth, revisist the pictograph and read again what monkers explained. Otherwise you can just be like CXRAndy.
 

CXRAndy

Legendary Member
You know when the argument is completely lost when one side advocate violence

And against women, typical of men who are trans

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