Gender again. Sorry!
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AuroraSaab
Pharaoh
Yeah it's funny but unfortunately this complete bs has been taught in schools to children for years and used in staff training by pro trans groups.
The BBC made a film to be used in sex education in schools that said there were 100+ genders.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...s-100-gender-identities-blasted-nonsense.html
No wonder referrals of children to gender clinics went through the roof. It's social contagion via the internet, ramped up and given authority by pro trans organisations being given a platform to push unevidenced nonsense without challenge.
monkers
Shaman
'We asked 100 British people what it means to be British and we received 100 different answers'.
Are people not allowed to have feelings about the world they live in and how they fit within it, or is it the prerogative of a few rigid thinkers and absolutist to tell them how it is?
monkers
Shaman
Maria Kelly lost her ET case against Leonardo this week. Apparently she intends to appeal.
Full judgment here ...
https://assets.publishing.service.g...elly_v_Leonardo_UK_Limited_-_8001497.2025.pdf
Full judgment here ...
https://assets.publishing.service.g...elly_v_Leonardo_UK_Limited_-_8001497.2025.pdf
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icowden
Shaman
I wonder on what grounds? I didn't read the whole thing but the summary states that single occupancy toilets were available so if she felt that strongly she had a private toilet to use.
monkers
Shaman
Leonardo had a range of options available to all employees, therefore the ET did not need to decide that under the HSE regs or that Leonardo treated her less favourably than any other employee under the EQA.
Also there was an exploration around whether the ET is a place to bring a case being used to test hypothetical ideological objections based on gender critical ideology when there was no actual claim or evidence of detriment.
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AuroraSaab
Pharaoh
Of course they are. Astrology fans feel a certain way about themselves and how fit within the world. I don't think we should teach the zodiac to kids in school. I certainly don't think the BBC should be making educational programmes about astrology and presenting it as facts.
Think what you like about yourself. When what you feel about yourself has an impact on others then it's not unreasonable that they will reject that imposition.
monkers
Shaman
This argument is tried, tested and failed throughout time in the ECtHR. Inevitably applications that read like this do not pass the admissibility stage, and if they do, the courts tend to rule them out.
The ''unreasonableness'' legal tests are long established. There is no argument of imposition when any supposed wrongdoing is exactly that ''supposed'' or ''pretended'' rather than a substantive argument available in law.
The Kelly case is a further example of just that.
AuroraSaab
Pharaoh
No argument has been made in that paragraph. It was a general observation. If you persist in going beyond having personal beliefs and demanding things which impinge on others it's likely to receive push back. Nothing to do with the EHRC.
monkers
Shaman
Well if I follow your thinking then, astrology is too unscientific, Stonehenge then has no cultural relevance, the site should be bulldozed and the waste material should be put in the ground as the foundation for a road across it. Just as you would bulldoze Stonehenge, you bulldoze your way across the culture and society of everybody else because you have no appreciation of it.
And I never so much as mentioned the EHRC.
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bobzmyunkle
Veteran
No wonder you usually rely on AI to construct your argument.
AuroraSaab
Pharaoh
I don't think they should teach Stoneage beliefs as facts or promote them as factual on BBC shows for kids, which is the actual equivalent.
Gender identity isn't a culture. It's more a personal religious belief. And again that's fine until it impinges on others.
monkers
Shaman
You should try it Bob, at least then you might have an argument. Too often you don't, this being one example.
monkers
Shaman
I did not say gender identity is a culture. Why do I have to post time and again to correct you? However I will say that gender critical ideology has become a culture in its own right in the UK. It is also clear that gender identity denial is promoted and funded by religious groups.
Can you at least provide a link to this BBC programme of which you speak?
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AuroraSaab
Pharaoh
The BBC took it down from their BBC Teach website in 2021 after being available for 2 years. You can probably find it on YouTube or archived somewhere. There's a clip in this:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...-programme-tells-9-year-olds-100-genders.html
"One section of the film includes a pupil asking: 'How many gender identities are there?' It is answered by 'Kate', described as an RSE [Relationships and Sex Education] teacher, who tells two children: 'There are so many gender identities. So we know we have got male and female, but there are over 100 if not more gender identities now."
Perhaps you need to write with more coherence or stop using AI if you want your posts to make sense.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...-programme-tells-9-year-olds-100-genders.html
"One section of the film includes a pupil asking: 'How many gender identities are there?' It is answered by 'Kate', described as an RSE [Relationships and Sex Education] teacher, who tells two children: 'There are so many gender identities. So we know we have got male and female, but there are over 100 if not more gender identities now."
Perhaps you need to write with more coherence or stop using AI if you want your posts to make sense.
