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CXRAndy

Shaman
it does not define the meanings of the words 'men' or 'women'

It never needed to, every sane normal person knows the difference and understands fully what a woman or man is.

Only when batshît crazy people started inventing plethora of genders did we ever need to consider carving the definition of male or female in stone
 

monkers

Shaman
It never needed to, every sane normal person knows the difference and understands fully what a woman or man is.

Only when batshît crazy people started inventing plethora of genders did we ever need to consider carving the definition of male or female in stone

My post pertains to the law. Your post pertains to bigoty which is the preserve of ''insane'' or ''batshit crazy people'' to place it within your ordinary language.

My own birth certificate says ''girl''. Most ''sane'' people would understand what that means without listening to other people or reading down the law.
 
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CXRAndy

Shaman
The law is an ass.

It has been manipulated to create a section for men(mainly) to fulfill their fetishes, invading women's spaces, sports, changing rooms.

All these laws need to be repealed, standard clear laws giving definition to male and female.

If you're a male, want to wear a dress, makeup etc fine. Expect to outlawed entering women only designated spaces.

If you cant accept this, keep your predilections to your private dwelling or in private with others who follow your ideology
 

monkers

Shaman
The law is an ass.

It has been manipulated to create a section for men(mainly) to fulfill their fetishes, invading women's spaces, sports, changing rooms.

All these laws need to be repealed, standard clear laws giving definition to male and female.

If you're a male, want to wear a dress, makeup etc fine. Expect to outlawed entering women only designated spaces.

If you cant accept this, keep your predilections to your private dwelling or in private with others who follow your ideolog

U OK hun?
 

CXRAndy

Shaman
Who would have thought over a hundred years ago, we would have to define what a biological male and female are.

Thats how crazy the whole trans ideology is. :crazy:
 

monkers

Shaman
Who would have thought over a hundred years ago, we would have to define what a biological male and female are.

Thats how crazy the whole trans ideology is. :crazy:

We don't need to define what a biological male and female are, which is why the law did not need to concern itself with it before, except for matters pertaining to marriage. When trans people have rights and adjust their biology, your biological make up remains unchanged.

You seem to confuse what you think of ''biological reality'' with biological necessity. We simply do not need every male and female to be capable of reproduction; nature does not construct 'reality' that way.

We need to be sure that all people have equal rights. We need to ensure that people do not harm each other regardless of identity. That is the legal reality.
 

CXRAndy

Shaman
We don't need to define what a biological male and female are, which is why the law did not need to concern itself with it before, except for matters pertaining to marriage. When trans people have rights and adjust their biology, your biological make up remains unchanged.

You seem to confuse what you think of ''biological reality'' with biological necessity. We simply do not need every male and female to be capable of reproduction; nature does not construct 'reality' that way.

We need to be sure that all people have equal rights. We need to ensure that people do not harm each other regardless of identity. That is the legal reality.

Males and females already have equal rights.

What we dont need is males having any female rights when obviously they are always going to be male, no matter how you dress or feel like
 

monkers

Shaman
Males and females already have equal rights.

What we dont need is males having any female rights when obviously they are always going to be male, no matter how you dress or feel like

We just need to apply the law in context.

What you are asking for is a bigots' charter. You can't understand why the law doesn't oblige you.

When I apply your other positions with regard to equality law and criminal law in the context of 'faith' for example, the bigotry becomes all the more obvious.
 

CXRAndy

Shaman
What the general public is demanding, women have their spaces and males have theirs.

If you're born male, you get to use male facilities or designated mixed facilities.

Males can not, should, will not be allowed in female specific areas.

Before you jump in with what about boys. Young boys have always been able to go with their mothers without any issues. Only when they reach a certain age they have to use male facilities
 
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