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  • I love trans people

  • I'm transphobic, i.e., I'm literally afraid of trans people

  • Trans people have all the rights they need right now

  • No they don't

  • The gender thread has helped me make up my mind

  • The gender thread nearly made me lose my mind

  • Monkers is talking bollox

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  • Everybody talks bollox sometimes

  • I'm trans, you're trans, we're all trans


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CXRAndy

Pharaoh
... Tell me you don't understand how tennis rankings work without telling me you don't understand how tennis rankings work.

You are stating she could have easily won, but lost. I can see with my own eyes, she was out gunned by a near retiring male professional
 

AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
I've actually watched it, and I maintain that Sabalenka actually going for it beats Kyrgios, probably not in straight sets, but she would. They were both holding back and the whole thing was a joke.
Why would she? If she could beat him why would she lose deliberately? If she was throwing the game why not make it closer? Then they could have a lucrative re match.
He's not even a top 500 male player.

There likely are a few sports eg endurance events where elite female performance is close to elite male performance, but tennis isn't one of them.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
She didn't throw it, she just didn't try to win. There's a difference.

If you'd watched the game you'd have seen her body language when she won a point. She knew that if she wanted to win she'd have had him on toast.

Whatever really, nice money for both of them in an utterly irrelevant "spectacle".
 

AuroraSaab

Pharaoh
The Guardian analysis.

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I haven't seen a single review that suggested she could have won if she wanted. He would have stepped up his game too.
 

Rusty Nails

Country Member
She didn't throw it, she just didn't try to win. There's a difference.

If you'd watched the game you'd have seen her body language when she won a point. She knew that if she wanted to win she'd have had him on toast.

Whatever really, nice money for both of them in an utterly irrelevant "spectacle".

Sorry Andy, I suspect you are in a very small minority with that opinion.
 

Shortfall

Active Member
She didn't throw it, she just didn't try to win. There's a difference.

If you'd watched the game you'd have seen her body language when she won a point. She knew that if she wanted to win she'd have had him on toast.

Whatever really, nice money for both of them in an utterly irrelevant "spectacle".

Fücking hell!! You really believe that don't you? You seem.completely divorced from reality.
 

AndyRM

Elder Goth
Fücking hell!! You really believe that don't you? You seem.completely divorced from reality.

Are you basing that on my opinion about a pointless tennis match or some deeper insight?
 

CXRAndy

Pharaoh
I am referring specifically to the tennis match. Kyrgios beat her easily despite the small court. This comes as no surprise to anyone and is precisely why women dont want men competing in their sport.

Imagine the score and reaction if a top 10 male player had competed against her. She would have been pummeled.

Some would still say- she was having an off day 🙄
 

Ian H

Squire
Please take this argument about sport to the mothership. This forum is for friendly discussion of politics not the vicious debate that is going on here.

See - if tennis was banned there'd be no argument about transgender people's right to exist. Who'd a thunk it.
 

classic33

Missen
Transing dead people ffs. We have no idea if such women as Cashier, or eg James Barry, considered themselves to be really men or if they adopted male personas in order to have greater freedom, independence, and careers that weren't open to women like soldier and doctor.
Isn't considering yourself to be the sex other than you were born with, exactly what you've been saying is impossible.
Especially when they then use their belief to gain access to areas they'd not have under their beliefs. Or does this apply, in your head to men only?

Over half a century living as a man, and you say there's nothing wrong with it.
 
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