secretsqirrel
Senior Member
short and silly……
Gulf War No.37: Iranistan
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wafter
New Member
Indeed... certainly seems that boiled down the whole sorry situation is driven by religious extremism on all sides.
laurentian
Regular
Quite.
I've long held the belief that the gun toting religious zealots in the Middle East are derided by the gun toting religious zealots in the USA
Pblakeney
Legendary Member
Beebo
Legendary Member
Israel called the shot on this escalation and Trump is stupid enough to follow.
Just heard a very interesting comment about timings, in that Israel had to do this now before the mid terms, as Trump will be too weak to launch this stuff afterwards.
First Aspect
Guru
This is more likely to be a war the US pulls out of abruptly leaving a shitshow for the rest of Europe and the Middle East to live with, than to end up with a prolonged Iraq/Afghanistan or Vietnam type scenario. I do wonder if the only key issue now will be the Iranian ability to keep the shipping lanes closed.
midlandsgrimpeur
Well-Known Member
Donnie is just emulating his hero, Putin. I seem to recall something about Kyiv being taken in 2 days and the whole of Ukraine being annexed in about one week.
midlandsgrimpeur
Well-Known Member
What amazes me with all this is the fact we have a right wing press that has banged on about sovereignty since Brexit, now slavishly telling us that the UK should enter into a war instigated by another country that has f*** all to do with us. I see Labour have got some horrendous plan to pay the families of failed Asylum Seekers up to £40k to leave the country. Perhaps that money would be better spent paying Daily Mail/Telegraph columnists to leave instead. They can go to Dubai and become 'influencers', particularly as they seem to have quickly developed such a great interest in Middle Eastern politics.
Psamathe
Guru
I appreciate you were answering a different comment but for context I think it important that Iran regime being "bad" does not make attacking and killing them "good". It is possible for two "bad" actors to start fighting each other.
Too often people incorrectly interpret criticism for one party as support for the opposing party eg criticise Israel for genocide and some assume you are supporting Hamas. Similarly, criticise US for attacking Iran and some interpret that as supporting the Iranian regime. People can be critical of both parties but a) it get tiresome to keep having to prefix "Whilst I'm no supporter of ..." and b) Current comment if often in relation to recent events which does not mean earlier events are not important or significant, just that to present a complete balanced history before every issue raised would be madness.
CXRAndy
Epic Member
Save the money, send them home free and use it to fund more speed cameras.
wafter
New Member
Obvously.
My point was that Vietnam was an unnecessary war instigated by the US that dragged on far, far beyond initial predictions and ended up costing the US dearly. Just one of a seemingly unending list of countries globally that the US has meddled in, in pursuit of its own ends; usually to everyone's detriment.
The middle east reference was with respect to Iraq and Afghanistan; two more recent examples of questionable US aggression that they've subsequently made a total bollocks of.
Looks like Captain Orange is about to set that bar even lower, however...
AuroraSaab
Pharaoh
I didn't say it did. The context, which you felt necessary to state for your post but ommitted to give for mine, was the suggestion (in my view) that the Iranian regime was somehow moving away from repression in the 90's and would have continued to do so. I'm not sure why you even felt it necessary to quote my post to make your point.
