Is the Green Agenda the new battleground for Brexiteers?

[newfhouse]

The right wingers should love this, making us more self-sufficient and less reliant on both big business empires and some seriously dodgy foreign powers.

Who would fund the right wingers’ parties and pressure groups if not big business empires and dodgy foreign powers?

 

[mjr]

Who would fund the right wingers’ parties and pressure groups if not big business empires and dodgy foreign powers?

Surely right wingers aren't being conned by opportunist power-seekers leading their parties?

 

[Fab Foodie]

You can ask me if I ever look in the mirror if you like.
And I won't be affronted - honest..

The answer would be yes, but not really that often.

But when I do, a reasonably attractive, middle aged woman gazes back with a slightly wry smile

Same here….but only on my days off….

 

[mudsticks]

Same here….but only on my days off….

Takes a little while to get the 'look' just right eh??

 

[Archie_tect]

"Older people, who won't see any benefits, seem to not care about the planet's future" ...the irony is that no-one this century will see any benefits from things we do, now, to prevent the increase in greenhouse gases as the slow return to a pre-industrialisation climate won't be achieved for hundreds of years, but that isn't the point of why we should, is it?

The Telegraph's blogger is just stirring up trouble as no doubt Jeremy Vine will when this hits the BBC. All we can do is ignore the doubters and get on with COP26 with a real purpose.

All Governments are discussing is how to slow the rate of the increase in greenhouse gases by 2030 we will achieve something but that sadly is too late as the permanent Climate Change Tipping Point was passed many years ago. Hence I suppose that is why the Telegraph fatalists suggest there is no point trying as the worst effects will be many years after they've sloughed their mortal coils.

 

[Archie_tect]

My granddaughter will be 79 in 2100... I'd like to think she'll be able to look back and say at least grandad did his best... as London's 5m high Embankment flood defence walls are breached again.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Perhaps a more appropriate title, although admittedly a little less catchy, would be "Is the Green Agenda the next battleground for the reactionary, following Brexit?"

 

[lazybloke]

Something wrong with the west demonising Putin for not attending COP26, whilst simultaneously burning as much Russian gas as we can get.

Sadly I'm complicit, having a gas hob and boiler at the current time

 

[mudsticks]

"Older people, who won't see any benefits, seem to not care about the planet's future" ...the irony is that no-one this century will see any benefits from things we do, now, to prevent the increase in greenhouse gases as the slow return to a pre-industrialisation climate won't be achieved for hundreds of years, but that isn't the point of why we should, is it?

The Telegraph's blogger is just stirring up trouble as no doubt Jeremy Vine will when this hits the BBC. All we can do is ignore the doubters and get on with COP26 with a real purpose.

All Governments are discussing is how to slow the rate of the increase in greenhouse gases by 2030 we will achieve something but that sadly is too late as the permanent Climate Change Tipping Point was passed many years ago. Hence I suppose that is why the Telegraph fatalists suggest there is no point trying as the worst effects will be many years after they've sloughed their mortal coils.

There seemed to be approx a two second window where climate change deniers, realised their mistake, then went full blown'"Too late to do anything now"

Maybe two seconds is an over estimate??

 

[BoldonLad]

"Older people, who won't see any benefits, seem to not care about the planet's future" ...the irony is that no-one this century will see any benefits from things we do, now, to prevent the increase in greenhouse gases as the slow return to a pre-industrialisation climate won't be achieved for hundreds of years, but that isn't the point of why we should, is it?

The Telegraph's blogger is just stirring up trouble as no doubt Jeremy Vine will when this hits the BBC. All we can do is ignore the doubters and get on with COP26 with a real purpose.

All Governments are discussing is how to slow the rate of the increase in greenhouse gases by 2030 we will achieve something but that sadly is too late as the permanent Climate Change Tipping Point was passed many years ago. Hence I suppose that is why the Telegraph fatalists suggest there is no point trying as the worst effects will be many years after they've sloughed their mortal coils.

The old divide and conquer routine, in this instance, setting old against young.

 

[mudsticks]

The old divide and conquer routine, in this instance, setting old against young.

Which is a nonsense.

As there are plenty of older people who care deeply about all this..

It's just possible that not all of them are regular Telegraph readers..

 

[mudsticks]

Perhaps a more appropriate title, although admittedly a little less catchy, would be "Is the Green Agenda the next battleground for the reactionary, following Brexit?"

To be honest, it has been their battleground for years..

Hence all the anti 'tree hugging' 'eco warrior' 'tofu munching' rhetoric you get off of the let's keep business pretty much as usual brigade..

 

[BoldonLad]

Which is a nonsense.

As there are plenty of older people who care deeply about all this..

It's just possible that not all of them are regular Telegraph readers..

I didn't say there were not older people who care (after all, I am one of them!, I also happen not to read the Telegraph).

My point was, that the old "sow the seeds of division" is a tactic commonly used by groups attempting to derail a movement.

Can we have the ball back in play now, please.....

 

[the snail]

There seemed to be approx a two second window where climate change deniers, realised their mistake, then went full blown'"Too late to do anything now"

Maybe two seconds is an over estimate??

It's nor really a case of being to late to do anything, just that the consequences of inaction are getting more disastrous.

 

[mudsticks]

I didn't say there were not older people who care (after all, I am one of them!, I also happen not to read the Telegraph).

My point was, that the old "sow the seeds of division" is a tactic commonly used by groups attempting to derail a movement.

Can we have the ball back in play now, please.....

I know, I wasn't taking issue with you, just the people who make out such nonsenses as 'older people don't care'

No need to get all prickly and defensive now

You can have all the balls as far as I'm concerned. Not really a sporty sort Tbh.

It's nor really a case of being to late to do anything, just that the consequences of inaction are getting more disastrous.

Yes we can still start to row back, and reduce if not stop the warming effects.

And thereby avert some of the worst effects..

And build more climate change resilient systems.
And put in place carbon sequestering measures..

Gotta be worth a try