Israel / Palestine

[Pblakeney]

I think you are not telling the whole truth here

You can not have wasted police time if you sent an email to someone ( non police). You never involved police, so how have you wasted police time

If matter was serious enough to have involved a written warning ( not a legal sanction !) then there must have been something you've done to justify a warning, so once again you could not be wasting police time.

I suggest that you re-read his post.

 

[Psamathe]

Palestine Action isn't being proscribed because it has anything to do with terrorism. It's being proscribed because the government, and those who influence it, fear its efficacy.

And lobbying (something that really seems to work for the vested interests with the current Labour encumbents)

Lord Dannatt urged ministers to crack down on Palestine Action at request of US firm
A member of the House of Lords urged ministers to crack down on Palestine Action at the request of a US defence company that employs him as an adviser.

Richard Dannatt, a former head of the British army, wrote privately to two separate Home Office ministers asking them to address the “threat” posed by the group after its activists targeted a factory in 2022.

Ian

 

[Pblakeney]

And lobbying (something that really seems to work for the vested interests with the current Labour encumbents)

Ian

Whenever I read the word "lobbying" I interpret it as "bribed". Yet to be convinced otherwise.

 

[Pblakeney]

This will come as a surprise to - Nobody.

"Netanyahu to propose full reoccupation of Gaza, Israeli media report"​

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqv2qjg5vvo

Which begs the question, has Israel ever legally occupied Gaza?

 

[Psamathe]

This will come as a surprise to - Nobody.

"Netanyahu to propose full reoccupation of Gaza, Israeli media report"​

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqv2qjg5vvo

Which begs the question, has Israel ever legally occupied Gaza?

(Without suggesting support for anybody for anything or vice versa) my worry is that Hamas regard the hostages as their only leverage and should Israel get close to any hostages any risk they might rescue them then Hamas will ensure they only recover a body. My impression is that Hamas would do anything to avoid Netanyahu claiming any sort of "win".

Just a concern based on my impression of the various groups involved.

Ian

 

[AndyRM]

I suggest that you re-read his post.

Like @Pblakeney says. Read what I wrote.

 

[Pblakeney]

(Without suggesting support for anybody for anything or vice versa) my worry is that Hamas regard the hostages as their only leverage and should Israel get close to any hostages any risk they might rescue them then Hamas will ensure they only recover a body. My impression is that Hamas would do anything to avoid Netanyahu claiming any sort of "win".

Just a concern based on my impression of the various groups involved.

Ian

I'd agree. The only thing keeping the hostages alive is the hope of a free Palestine.

 

[PurplePenguin]

(Without suggesting support for anybody for anything or vice versa) my worry is that Hamas regard the hostages as their only leverage and should Israel get close to any hostages any risk they might rescue them then Hamas will ensure they only recover a body. My impression is that Hamas would do anything to avoid Netanyahu claiming any sort of "win".

Just a concern based on my impression of the various groups involved.

Ian

That is already Hamas's policy. Israel rescued a couple of hostages in what was a complete bloodbath involving 200+ deaths, so Hamas announced that in any future attempts they will execute the hostages. And that has now happened.

 

[PurplePenguin]

It's also worth noting that Israel regular loses soldiers. Presumably most are conscripts. I'm surprised there isn't a greater backlash about this.

https://www.gov.il/en/pages/swords-of-iron-idf-casualties

 

[briantrumpet]

This will come as a surprise to - Nobody.

"Netanyahu to propose full reoccupation of Gaza, Israeli media report"​

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqv2qjg5vvo

Which begs the question, has Israel ever legally occupied Gaza?

This has been the end game since Netanyahu supported Hamas: he engineered the excuse for bombing and starving the Palestinians out of their own land.

 

[Psamathe]

Another aspect; I wonder how much Israel actually knows about the individual Hamas "foot soldiers". They've eliminated many of the leaders so do they know and can they identify the current Hamas members. Just thinking that should Israel occupy the entire region could the remaining Hamas fighters hide their weapons, pitch a tarp tent and fade into the general population ie disappear and switch to more of a guerrilla operation?

Ian

 

[secretsqirrel]

Another aspect; I wonder how much Israel actually knows about the individual Hamas "foot soldiers". They've eliminated many of the leaders so do they know and can they identify the current Hamas members. Just thinking that should Israel occupy the entire region could the remaining Hamas fighters hide their weapons, pitch a tarp tent and fade into the general population ie disappear and switch to more of a guerrilla operation?

Ian

I fear they do not factor in any of ‘general population‘ remaining in Gaza once full occupation is achieved.

 

[spen666]

I suggest that you re-read his post.

I have and it still is lacking in full information
There could not be a fine for wasting police time based on the information provided.
What is the wasting of police time?

 

[AndyRM]

I have and it still is lacking in full information
There could not be a fine for wasting police time based on the information provided.
What is the wasting of police time?

Read. What. I wrote.

 

[Pblakeney]

Another aspect; I wonder how much Israel actually knows about the individual Hamas "foot soldiers". They've eliminated many of the leaders so do they know and can they identify the current Hamas members. Just thinking that should Israel occupy the entire region could the remaining Hamas fighters hide their weapons, pitch a tarp tent and fade into the general population ie disappear and switch to more of a guerrilla operation?

Ian

As per the Riviera de Trump project, no Palestinians are to remain in what is/was Palestine.
The genocide will then be complete.