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Psamathe

Psamathe

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matticus said:
... but the wider point is that EVERY candidate will have some kind of criticism levelled against them, and every candidate that goes thru vetting (and fails) is wasting more time.
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True if we consider only western prominent wealthy people. But might middle east countries not have potential candidates?
 
Pblakeney

Pblakeney

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Psamathe said:
Plus it's an area of the world where religion is important to much of the population. And Blair is very religious, just the wrong religion for that part of the world.

Plus, UK sort of has a "track record" in the region (and many other regions of the world).
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He can’t be that religious or he’d have had trouble flip flopping.
Yes, I know it’s the same bible.
 
matticus

matticus

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Psamathe said:
True if we consider only western prominent wealthy people. But might middle east countries not have potential candidates?
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The middle east? A region free from conflict, and centuries-old grudges you mean?

p.s. Obligitaory Disclaimer: I didn't say we should only consider western prominent wealthy people ;-)
 
dutchguylivingintheuk

dutchguylivingintheuk

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C R said:
The problem with Blair is his personal back story of going into Iraq with evidently false pretenses just to suck up to Bush. He will never be seen as an impartial or fair broker. I don't know who an impartial or fair broker would be, but Blair definitely isn't.
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I think someone from the middle East is better then someone like Blair or anyone from the west really. But it is indeed hard to find someone who both parties either hate or like and trust at the same time,
 
dutchguylivingintheuk

dutchguylivingintheuk

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glasgowcyclist said:
Case thrown out 💪


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce846r2drg8o
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yeah but sadly on technical grounds would have been better if it was either thrown out on the basis of the court not upholding the charge or the other way around now in fact nothing has changed they(or any other) can be charged again.
 
glasgowcyclist

glasgowcyclist

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dutchguylivingintheuk said:
yeah but sadly on technical grounds would have been better if it was either thrown out on the basis of the court not upholding the charge or the other way around now in fact nothing has changed they(or any other) can be charged again.
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They can't be charged again for this alleged incident, it's time barred.

Nothing has changed for Kneecap, who remain innocent and without a conviction for any crime in any country.
 
dutchguylivingintheuk

dutchguylivingintheuk

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glasgowcyclist said:
They can't be charged again for this alleged incident, it's time barred.

Nothing has changed for Kneecap, who remain innocent and without a conviction for any crime in any country.
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my point is if there was a real ruling the what to court sees as limit of free speech where a little bit more clear, because let's be real the only reason they where charged in the first place is the court of public opinion.
In understand they can't be charged for this incident but they ca be charged for future slogan's i'm just saying it would be better if there was some clarity instead of all those times the police only charges people when there is some outrage.
 
Psamathe

Psamathe

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Nothing on the scale of what is being done to Palestinians but C4 News yesterday has coverage of a small protest in Israel by Israelis. C4 noticed as the Israeli Conductor from this year's Proms who had a public appeal for sanity was attending.

And really scarey as a small peaceful group and Police were getting oppressive. Getting aggressive and physical to the C4 reporter. And then, passing driver hooted (as people do passing demonstrations to show support) and Police dragged him out of his car forcing him to the ground). It's getting scarily oppressive of any descent from Government, real "Police State" stuff.
 
C R

C R

Guru
Psamathe said:
Nothing on the scale of what is being done to Palestinians but C4 News yesterday has coverage of a small protest in Israel by Israelis. C4 noticed as the Israeli Conductor from this year's Proms who had a public appeal for sanity was attending.

And really scarey as a small peaceful group and Police were getting oppressive. Getting aggressive and physical to the C4 reporter. And then, passing driver hooted (as people do passing demonstrations to show support) and Police dragged him out of his car forcing him to the ground). It's getting scarily oppressive of any descent from Government, real "Police State" stuff.
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But hamas, innit.
 
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Beebo

Beebo

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Trump and Netanyahu are currently holding a press conference to detail a peace process which Hamas haven’t even seen yet.

I’d love it to work, but I’m unsure what they are even proposing, and if it’s workable.
 
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