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Pross

Senior Member
Maybe we can have a quick poll on that?

I would use being able to spell Israel in posts as a starting point.
 
You seem to have forgotten to mention it was in response to the Palestinians hurling explosives towards troops & sending incendiary balloons into Israel.

The point is that it didn’t start on 7 October.

(Besides, throwing explosives at an occupying army is legitimate resistance. The IOF can’t claim self-defence when they’re illegally occupying and controlling someone else’s land.)
 
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Bollox it's whataboutery!

How the Palestinians have been treated is real and relevant, and you know that, too.
Yes how the Palestinians have and are being treated is very relevant, it is however beside the whataboutery if you say that in response to the October 7 Hamas attacks. The second world war was also a longer conflict, Jews where portrayed in a certain way for years prior Hitlers ''final soluttion'' that does not take away that if we speak about the second world war, we speak about the second world war. same applies here.


Israel bombed Gaza three times in the month before that; September 2023.
You have been educated in the meantime that it was a response instead of an unprovoked attack. Maybe you should stop reading those outlets that collect data from one side and then present that side as the big victims. they arent't
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
Maybe you should stop reading those outlets that collect data from one side and then present that side as the big victims. they arent't

Good to clarify that the 'side' (y'know - the ones without a massive, modern, highly armed organised military) with verified fatalities approaching 70,000 and fück alone knows how many multiples of that under the rubble of the countless flattened buildings aren't "the big victims". :okay:
 
Yes how the Palestinians have and are being treated is very relevant, it is however beside the whataboutery if you say that in response to the October 7 Hamas attacks. The second world war was also a longer conflict, Jews where portrayed in a certain way for years prior Hitlers ''final soluttion'' that does not take away that if we speak about the second world war, we speak about the second world war. same applies here.



You have been educated in the meantime that it was a response instead of an unprovoked attack. Maybe you should stop reading those outlets that collect data from one side and then present that side as the big victims. they arent't

Explain why the IDF and the Israhelli Gov have refused journalists and diplomats entry to Palestine for two years?

It does seem that Israhell are doing exactly what you accuse of everyone else of doing.
 

CXRAndy

Shaman
Explain why the IDF and the Israhelli Gov have refused journalists and diplomats entry to Palestine for two years?

It does seem that Israhell are doing exactly what you accuse of everyone else of doing.

Its a relatively small battlefield, fighting across most of it. We know hamas were pretending to be journalists to gain access. They were quickly eliminated. Not wanting to wipe out other journalists, better to ban them all.
 
Good to clarify that the 'side' (y'know - the ones without a massive, modern, highly armed organised military) with verified fatalities approaching 70,000 and fück alone knows how many multiples of that under the rubble of the countless flattened buildings aren't "the big victims". :okay:
Gets a bit old the ''i know which side your on'' Let me ask you a other question how many ''sides'' are there? and while where at it who sad something in the line off ''50k casualties is not nearly enough the birthrate is still much higher and the media turn against Israel so we want more victims please.'' and something in the lines off ''protecting the lives of people in Gaza is not our responsibility'' ? In both cases it was Hamas who in turn doesn't let the ones that would be responsible to protect civilians into Gaza (Palestinian authority) So you lot and a lot of other called Israel out for ''genocide'' but how do you call depriving population of water, food supplies, and shelter against incoming bombs(that are incoming because of your actions) well how do you call that? Hypocrisy oh and Hamas now (reported today11/10) refuses to disarm themselves and started killing and torturing everyone they call a ''dissident'' Still sure Israel would break the conditions? well Hamas beat them to it again i told my side many times before i'm not pro-Israel and I'm not pro-Hamas. But i do see Israel as a more functioning government as Hamas, also witnesses by the fact that in Israeli cities there have been many protests against this war and although Idf/Israeli police does not handle it at the standards we would expect from the police in any western country it still is not the same as torturing anyone that opposes you like Hamas does.


Explain why the IDF and the Israhelli Gov have refused journalists and diplomats entry to Palestine for two years?

It does seem that Israhell are doing exactly what you accuse of everyone else of doing.
Earlier you had very reliable twitter post claiming journalist killed by Israel in Gaza now you claim they where never allowed in, which one is it?
And also i'm not pro-Israel or Hamas so i don't feel i have to defend every action of the Idf

Other way around any explanation for Hamas actions? with your black and white way of thinking if your against Israel you must be for Hamas right? and if you don't stop assuming i support Israel in every farking action just because i point out common misconceptions, deliberate misinformation and downright misinformed stupid claims that assume that all will be fine if Israel would stop the war and Hamas would return.
one day in and they terrorize again.
 
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