Israel / Palestine

[Rusty Nails]

Breaking the law is breaking the law - whether you agree with the law or not, you are subject to the risk of criminal sanctions if you deliberately choose to break the law.

To paraphrase Oscar Wilde you appear to be one of those people who know the legality of everything and the justness of nothing...and are proud of it.

Of course breaking the law is breaking the law, and it does not take a legal expert like you to understand that, but the whole point of these actions is that many people do not believe this law is just and needs protesting against. These people understand this but their principles make them take the risk of being prosecuted.

Moral principles and justice are often more important than the letter of the law, but I doubt that your deep legal training lets you understand that weird concept.

 

[Ian H]

I read that everyone is being released without charge.

 

[tarric]

Hark at all the funny little Free Speech Absolutists - "No, no - not that free speech!"

Ahhh but they only want free speech when they are talking.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Just on a side note..

The vote in favour of legislation to proscribe group Palestine Action (also Maniacs Murder Cult and Russian Imperial movement) as a terrorist organisation, passed by 385 votes to 26.

It's my view that the Home Secretary deliberately lumped PA in with the other two groups to make it difficult for MPs to vote against it.

I'm pleased that 26 saw through the ruse and voted accordingly but disappointed in those who abstained.

 

[briantrumpet]

I read that everyone is being released without charge.

I think that a mixture of ridicule, testing the boundaries by using ambiguous language (the stuff that any judge would toss out purely on a linguistic reading), and direct challenge in sufficient numbers ought to provoke a 'clarification' from the government, if they have any sense (yeah, ok). The toll tax protests were enough effectively to bring Thatcher down, as she wouldn't read the situation and change her mind. I think there were plenty of laws broken during them.

 

[matticus]

Times Letter of the Day:

 

[C R]

Times Letter of the Day:
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See, the military have all gone woke terrorists innit.

 

[matticus]

See, the military have all gone woke terrorists innit.

Even the Pentagon was woke then. Run by bloody hippies!

 

[glasgowcyclist]

To paraphrase Oscar Wilde you appear to be one of those people who know the legality of everything and the justness of nothing...and are proud of it.

I’m sure you will have noticed long before now that the favourite pastime of Captain Obvious is dancing on the head of a pin. No real answers, no personal view, no thought, no sense of … well anything really.

Ask him anything and if the answer can’t be lifted from some statute book you’ll not hear a dicky bird from him.

 

[secretsqirrel]

There are at least 6 pro-Palestine organisations that have been gathering crowds of thousands over the past few months/years. They are not proscribed as terrorists as much as the likes of the Jewish Chronicle would like them to be.
So why pick on Palestine Action?

 

[C R]

There are at least 6 pro-Palestine organisations that have been gathering crowds of thousands over the past few months/years. They are not proscribed as terrorists as much as the likes of the Jewish Chronicle would like them to be.
So why pick on Palestine Action?

《Conspiracy Mode》Because the sentence Palestine Action is generic enough that you can construe expressions of support for Palestine as supportive of a proscribed organisation 《/Conspiracy Mode》

 

[glasgowcyclist]

There are at least 6 pro-Palestine organisations that have been gathering crowds of thousands over the past few months/years. They are not proscribed as terrorists as much as the likes of the Jewish Chronicle would like them to be.
So why pick on Palestine Action?

They were being/becoming effective.

 

[Psamathe]

To me it beggars belief how we watch horrific atrocities on our TVs every night, same broadcasts freely available to our Cabinet Ministers, yet their focus and effort seems on how to stop pensioners holding up cardboard.

I suppose it explains why the UK & World is in such a mess.

Stop retirees expressing views whilst doing FA to stop atrocities being committed by one of our close allies. No doubt those same politicians will be asking us to re-elect them in a few years.

 

[secretsqirrel]

That’s another thing….

How were the silver warriors mobilised? 🤔

 

[glasgowcyclist]

That’s another thing….

How were the silver warriors mobilised? 🤔

Social media channels, supportive websites. Just the usual really.