Israel / Palestine
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BoldonLad
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Isn't there another subject where the bolded part would apply?
Rusty Nails
Country Member
Is there? Why not tell us which one in particular vexes you, or is there a multiple choice option?
BoldonLad
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Didn’t say it did or it did not “vex” me. Simply observing that Politicians don’t always “take note”
Rusty Nails
Country Member
Very deliberately and completely ignoring the big difference about intent...and the tragic loss of lives in the two genuine acts of terrorism.
I am still unsure about where the plane engine paint-spraying involved the use of "Terror" or its promotion as an aim.
I suppose "inconveniencism" doesn't have the same ring as "terrorism".
Rusty Nails
Country Member
Ah, just ruminating about politics in general rather than having a particular point of concern.
spen666
Senior Member
So using your warped logic we should be thanking the 7/7 and 21/7 bombers for showing up major failings in transport security?
Those doing the damage you refer to were not doing it to highlight shortcomings to the betterment of everyone. Not even the perpetrators or their now proscribed terrorist organisation make such a ridiculous claim. Stop inventing spurious excuses that even the perpetrators don't make.
BoldonLad
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Isn’t politicians not taking note of popular feeling a “point of concern”? it has spawned some unpleasant consequences.
But, thank you for your concern, Mr Moderator
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Rusty Nails
Country Member
Where in my reply was there any attempt to moderate your post?
In fact the opposite…there was no controversial content to moderate. I merely asked a question to elicit your opinion on any other specific issues where you felt the government was failing to represent the views of the public and you responded.
PurplePenguin
Active Member
Are Jewish children not covered by "children"? What is the relevance of the religion of Spurs' supporters when discussing Israel (noting there is no explicit reference to Israel anyway)?
PurplePenguin
Active Member
Reading about this online is fascinating. How can anyone oppose the message "Stop killing children"? There is deliberately no mention of which children e.g. could be Sudanese ones, Israeli ones or Ukrainian ones. Yet the Telegraph reports it as a blood libel - are they suggesting that "Kill more children" is something they stand for?
glasgowcyclist
Veteran
It's obviously antisemitic. How can nobody see that?!
It's all spelled out here (link to source on Twitter)
It's all spelled out here (link to source on Twitter)
"The banner was unveiled during a UEFA Super Cup match and it didn't even involve the usual suspects such as Liverpool or Celtic. It was actually laid out by children from nine conflict zones, including Iraq, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Ukraine, and... and... Palestine. I think I'm gonna be sick.
One of the children was a nine-year-old boy called Mohammed who antisemitically lost his parents during an Israeli airstrike in Gaza. By "lost his parents", I mean Israel blew them to pieces and made him an orphan.
The banner might not have contained any antisemitic words, but Stephen instinctively felt it was aimed at him and people like him. This is a perfectly normal reaction. I remember when Prince Andrew saw a banner about paedophiles and he was personally affronted. If a prince can be offended by a banner, I think Zionist journalists can too.
Although the banner did not name countries and the children were from nine different countries, it was antisemitic because it overlooked a key principle of international law: that it's good when Israel kills children. It's only bad when those other countries kill children.
A dismayed UEFA spokesperson rejected the accusations of anti-Israelism, saying, "We haven't even banned Israel from competitions like we did Russia".
Pollard clarified the banner was antisemitic because he put it through Google translate and it came out as "fark you, Jews." Someone called Josh Howie elaborated that UEFA are a bunch of "Jew-hating pricks". I'm unclear if he consulted with ChatGPT before coming to that conclusion.
I'm not an expert on these things, but Zionists appear to conflate the killing of children with Judaism, and feel we should give Zionists a free pass when they kill children. Or maybe they think we should pretend Israel is not killing children. I'm not clear what they're saying actually and nor are they. They reacted on pure, unadulterated rage like all normal, well-balanced people.
By conflating Jews with child killers, Stephen Pollard once again demonstrated he is an expert on antisemitism - this is why we listened to him so much during the Corbyn era.
Back then, the people who disagreed with Stephen were denying the problem. Today, the people who say the banner was not aimed at Jews and was simply aimed at child killers, regardless of their religion, are denying the problem. No wonder rates of antisemitism are going through the roof x"