Jubilee - celebrate, ignore or bemoan?

[PaulB]

Malcom Mclaren was a very flawed person but the way he stole and then claimed ownership of the punk movement was a masterpiece of media manipulation.

The Sex Pistols were just three session musicians and charismatic front men. Lydon even told everyone it was a con and ripoff at the time which I still find hilarious.

You're right in the claim that McLaren produced a masterpiece of media manipulation but he completely spiralled out of control. He went too far in exploiting Spungen's death for his own profit, producing T-shirts that bore the legend "She's dead, I'm alive, I'm yours" superimposed over Sid's face - nothing was too low for him. There's also suggestions that although it was Sid's own mother who handed over the bag of heroin from which Vicious died, the murky hand of McLaren's was involved in this. People on the scene at the time were of the opinion that as Sid was too unreliable to market alive, manky Malky knew he'd be better off dead and was involved in the final transaction in some way.

Also, suggesting that Cook, Jones and Matlock were mere session musicians is way off the mark. If a session musician was used by the Pistols in the studio, Chris Spedding would be called in to help out on the more complex guitar parts.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

BBC Scotlandshire is getting a right roasting for this tweet claiming "people in Scotland are celebrating" the jubilee. 🤣

There's so few they can barely scrape together a couple of photos.

Love some of the replies...


View: https://twitter.com/BBCScotlandNews/status/1533030534372270082?t=3CDsNb-zz-VEC61stUcEIA&s=19

 

[MrGrumpy]

It’s just not that widely celebrated out with Englandshire. It’s that obvious . Mind you been out to Costco and Gyle and it’s a lot quieter than normal . I think folk are either away or having a BBQ in the garden . Defo no union jacks around about my way

 

[matticus]

The overall picture is becoming more and more clear. When we look back at this ... "occasion", it will be the one where we spent 4 days arguing about how popular it was, and who(m) got the loudest boos/applause.

Unless Queenie dies at lunch tomorrow - that MIGHT change the narrative...

 

[mudsticks]

The overall picture is becoming more and more clear. When we look back at this ... "occasion", it will be the one where we spent 4 days arguing about how popular it was, and who(m) got the loudest boos/applause.

Unless Queenie dies at lunch tomorrow - that MIGHT change the narrative...

Not nessecelery, many of us are perfectly well able to separate a general benevolence towards the health and wellbeing of a (any) ninety year old woman.

From an objection to the whole idea of being deferential to, or approving of, a system of hereditary monarchy..

It's really not that difficult... 🙄

 

[matticus]

It's really not that difficult... 🙄

Thank you SO much for explaining that

 

[mudsticks]

Thank you SO much for explaining that

You're very welcome..👍🏼
First stating of the bleedin obvious, comes for free..

Subsequent "splaings may attract a surcharge though 😇

 

[mudsticks]

Mug ...

 

[Xipe Totec]

Also, suggesting that Cook, Jones and Matlock were mere session musicians is way off the mark. If a session musician was used by the Pistols in the studio, Chris Spedding would be called in to help out on the more complex guitar parts.

If I remember, Spedding (who produced the band's first demo recordings) was surprised by Steve Jones & what a good guitarist he was. I don't think he actually played on anything they released.

The myth that the Pistols couldn't play was McLaren marketing hype - pretty much like everything to do with them other than the actual band and their songs.

 

[Fab Foodie]

There's really no hope for the Swiss - they long ago built a railway inside that.
And they keep their cuckoos in clocks.

It's a fab train ride as long as you don't have the shoots, the pressure change doesn't help...dahikt.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

It's a fab train ride as long as you don't have the shoots, the pressure change doesn't help...dahikt.

Did you do the helicopter ride at the top?

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

That struck a chord (just the one).

Put 3 minor 1/3rds together and you'll have a chord to match Brexit.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Did you do the helicopter ride at the top?

Sadly not. On that occasion I never ventured far from the toilet....

 

[Ian H]

( Local rag) Beacon lit on Dartmoor - or possibly a scene from The Wickerman.

 

[Ian H]

The High Street is closed this week. Union jacks on every building. There's a disco there from a lorry trailer tonight. It has everything you could want: The Quo, Y-MCA, line dancing (not all at once).
We were chatting on an anti-monarchist theme with our local restaurant owner after a meal this evening (it was a quiet night for him because of the celebrations)