Let’s talk about BBC

[C R]

The problem for Sunak is that his culture war attack dogs have already entered the fray early on, so to external observers it looks like the government is exerting pressure on the BBC to punish presenters who criticise the government.

When you couple this with Tory entryism into top tier of BBC management it looks very,very bad

You give too much credit to the general public. Remember, these are the people that believed the bus.

I fear that the only victim of this affair will be the BBC as an institution.

 

[multitool]

Some people believed the bus. Not even 17.4m, I suspect, and there are almost 70m people in the UK.

But, as ever, these things do not exist in stasis. There is a dynamic, and the more that are convinced of something, the more that will go on to be convinced of it. It needs a critical mass and a head of steam, but most of all it is about perception.

 

[BoldonLad]

Some people believed the bus. Not even 17.4m, I suspect, and there are almost 70m people in the UK.

But, as ever, these things do not exist in stasis. There is a dynamic, and the more that are convinced of something, the more that will go on to be convinced of it. It needs a critical mass and a head of steam, but most of all it is about perception.

I can agree with you on that, facts, are almost irrelevant, it is what people perceive to be true that matters.

 

[multitool]

That is because almost all political discourse in this country is in bad faith.

Here is an astoundingly good opinion piece on the Linekar debacle

https://brokenbottleboy.substack.co...se?r=ma03l&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

 

[Rusty Nails]

Some people believed the bus. Not even 17.4m, I suspect, and there are almost 70m people in the UK.

But, as ever, these things do not exist in stasis. There is a dynamic, and the more that are convinced of something, the more that will go on to be convinced of it. It needs a critical mass and a head of steam, but most of all it is about perception.

It did not need 17.4 million to believe it. I believe the country has never been wholeheartedly behind our membership of the EU and it just needed a couple of million waverers to believe it.

Most political arguments and campaigns aim to convince the middle section of the bell-curve of political opinion.

 

[theclaud]

You can be sure that Sunak and Sharp have been on the phone because Sharp is a government appointee, and can only be removed by the government.

I'm so old, I remember when we had an opposition with reform of BBC governance in its manifesto.

 

[multitool]

I'm so old, I remember when we had an opposition with reform of BBC governance in its manifesto.

That blog to which I linked is excoriating in its depiction of Labour's timidity in the Linekar debacle. And he's right.

As you know, I view this as political expediency, but it does stick in the craw.

 

[Deleted member 49]

From the great Jim Bowen...look what you could have won..

 

[Deleted member 28]

Remember, these are the people that believed the bus.

And the people that got the Tories elected again..........

 

[Poacher]

And the people that got the Tories elected again..........

Which is pretty much the point that @C R was making.

 

[Deleted member 28]

Which is pretty much the point that @C R was making.

Sad isn't it.

 

[multitool]

I'll say it again. It's mad that footballers are now doing the job of public intellectuals and speaking out against creeping authoritarianism in this country.

Here's John Barnes nailing it...


View: https://twitter.com/Majstar7/status/1634898462046314496?s=20

 

[Wobblers]

Anyway, me n Adam are like Wrighty and Lineker - you fuck with him, you fuck with me.

And to think that I accompanied both you and Adam on the 2019 Manchester to Llandudno ride. I hadn't realised that I was in such mortal peril.

 

[theclaud]

And to think that I accompanied both you and Adam on the 2019 Manchester to Llandudno ride. I hadn't realised that I was in such mortal peril.

A narrow escape, Wobblers!

 

[theclaud]

And to think that I accompanied both you and Adam on the 2019 Manchester to Llandudno ride. I hadn't realised that I was in such mortal peril.

Also - don't upset Shep - he thinks he's the only one here with a bicycle! 🤫