Mason Greenwood

[MrGrumpy]

Nobody. His career is over. Which will cost Raith a lot in the longer term.

He wasn't even particularly good at kicking a ball at a high level.

It was cluster…..k of giant proportions , I actually thought the guy had disappeared out of the game . So surprised to see he had actually been playing in the lower leagues. There didn’t seem much of in uproar when at Clyde but if there was it didn’t make the news. The current debacle though is being blamed in oor Nippy and her supporters.

One things for sure Raith have done some serious damage and Will no doubt have to pay this guy compo ??! Crazy … it’s community club like most of the smaller teams. How the hell the torpedoed themselves like this is nuts !

 

[AndyRM]

It was cluster…..k of giant proportions , I actually thought the guy had disappeared out of the game . So surprised to see he had actually been playing in the lower leagues. There didn’t seem much of in uproar when at Clyde but if there was it didn’t make the news. The current debacle though is being blamed in oor Nippy and her supporters.

One things for sure Raith have done some serious damage and Will no doubt have to pay this guy compo ??! Crazy … it’s community club like most of the smaller teams. How the hell the torpedoed themselves like this is nuts !

There was.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/calls-boycott-football-club-after-10161013

Also convicted in the same trial was David Robertson, who was playing for Cowdenbeath at the time, but at least he had the decency (if that's an appropriate word to use in this context) to retire when he was convicted.

 

[Mr Celine]

The current debacle though is being blamed in oor Nippy and her supporters.

Who is trying to to blame the FM?

 

[MrGrumpy]

Who is trying to to blame the FM?

Plenty folk on social media will try and pin the tail on the donkey given any opportunity. Val McDairmid is or was one of Raiths largest sponsors and she’s been headline news and a close pal of Sturgeon! Obviously the Clyde story made the news but didn’t seem to get as much as Raith Rovers.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/cronyism-claim-after-writer-val-25453275

 

[AndyRM]

Plenty folk on social media will try and pin the tail on the donkey given any opportunity. Val McDairmid is or was one of Raiths largest sponsors and she’s been headline news and a close pal of Sturgeon! Obviously the Clyde story made the news but didn’t seem to get as much as Raith Rovers.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/cronyism-claim-after-writer-val-25453275

Even for the Daily Record, that's scraping the barrel.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Even for the Daily Record, that's scraping the barrel.

Absolutely.

 

[AndyRM]

Clyde have signed Goodwillie on loan for the rest of the season.

F*cking hell, that's even dafter than Raith signing him in the first place.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Yes quite the discussion today at work. Crazy however not quite the furore of Raith . Clyde fans and sponsors must be ok with it

 

[Bromptonaut]

Was it not Clyde he transferred to Raith from?

He seemed to be below the radar there; it was the sponsor and the Women's Team who flagged his presence at Raith.

Struggling a bit with it in some ways as, were he a convicted criminal offender, he might have an expectation of rehabilitation.

 

[AndyRM]

Was it not Clyde he transferred to Raith from?

He seemed to be below the radar there; it was the sponsor and the Women's Team who flagged his presence at Raith.

Struggling a bit with it in some ways as, were he a convicted criminal offender, he might have an expectation of rehabilitation.

He is a convicted criminal. Three times for assault.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Struggling a bit with it in some ways as, were he a convicted criminal offender, he might have an expectation of rehabilitation.

His rehabilitation can begin once he accepts responsibility for his actions and shows remorse. I don't think he is prepared to do this yet.

 

[spen666]

His rehabilitation can begin once he accepts responsibility for his actions and shows remorse. I don't think he is prepared to do this yet.

He was not convicted of rape though.

Indeed, I do not think he was even prosecuted for rape.


The finding was in a civil case which has a different standard of proof.

 

[theclaud]

He was not convicted of rape though.

Indeed, I do not think he was even prosecuted for rape.


The finding was in a civil case which has a different standard of proof.

What's your point, caller? GC didn't say he'd been convicted - merely that he should be held responsible for his actions.

 

[icowden]

He was not convicted of rape though.
Indeed, I do not think he was even prosecuted for rape.

There was an intention to prosecute but the Crown decided on the evidence not to proceed as they did not think there was a reasonable prospect of conviction - i.e. not enough evidence to probe beyond reasonable doubt that he committed rape.

The victim then launched a civil case where the burden of proof is whether someone did a thing on balance of probability, and the Judge's verdict was that they had. He also found that both footballers were evasive and selective to protect themselves. Goodwillie immediately declared bankruptcy which ensured that he didn't have to find the £100,000 in damages that the victim was awarded.

His character doesn't exactly sell itself either. He has three convictions for assault, and had to be ordered by the courts to pay child support for a baby he had with a big brother contestant.

 

[fozy tornip]

...had to be ordered by the courts to pay child support for a baby he had with a big brother contestant.

Let he who hasn't had to be ordered by the courts to to pay child support, for a baby he had with a Big Brother contestant, cast the first stone.