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Pale Rider

Veteran
Journalists as a whole, or particular journalists?

I'd agree that journalists who work for The Sun are pure scum. I think Wotton is scum (he used to work for the Sun). I think Oakeshot and her colleagues on the Mail are scum. Johnson is scum.

You can't have run out of space for your scum list, but I suppose you lost the will to reproduce more names from it.
 

multitool

Guest
I'm fine thanks... just clarifying the bullshit you wrote.Maybe stick to your crime fiction story's,suits you more.

Better pop a Pampers on just in case tho
 

Pale Rider

Veteran
Did you need an exhaustive list?

I don't think it is controversial to suggest that some of your colleagues are utterly immoral.

There's a difficulty making that judgment - immorality means something slightly different to every individual.

For example, I was surprised at the generally forgiving attitude of the public to Huw Edwards.

As I observed, most anyone else who was caught messing with teenagers, even if it was legal, would have been universally pilloried.

Going back to hacks, my list of immoral ones would be a lot shorter than yours, confirming our respective moralities are different.

Further, I think it fairer to suggest some journalists are guilty of immoral conduct over certain stories, not that they are thoroughly immoral individuals.
 

Pale Rider

Veteran
Nonsense.

One is one's actions.

A freelance mate of mine who works for the nationals has occasionally been put into a moral quandary by some of the requests from the national newsdesks.

In that arena, if you knock back a job you are finished for the foreseeable future, which can have a big impact on your ability to put food on the table.

I reckon he will have done a handful of stories that you, if not I, would describe as immoral.

But anyone meeting the bloke, whether you like him or not, could fairly brand him as immoral.
 

multitool

Guest
A freelance mate of mine who works for the nationals has occasionally been put into a moral quandary by some of the requests from the national newsdesks.

In that arena, if you knock back a job you are finished for the foreseeable future, which can have a big impact on your ability to put food on the table.

I reckon he will have done a handful of stories that you, if not I, would describe as immoral.

But anyone meeting the bloke, whether you like him or not, could fairly brand him as immoral.

One values are meaningless unless you live by them.

Immoral is as immoral does.
 

glasgowcyclist

Über Member
Grant Shapps has used House of Commons paper to write to Kier Starmer and ask him to pay for Just Stop Oil’s damage.
It seems to imply we can all write to the Conservative Party and ask for our money back on PPE and anything else they have wasted money on where they have some vague influence.
This is the best talent in the current Government. What a moron.
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“extremists”?! Ha ha, who’s the snowflake now? 😂
 

icowden

Legendary Member
Does that mean that the parent who contacted the BBC does not know the age of her own child?
If the parent says that it started at 17 and the child says it didn't, which one is telling the truth?
If the parent says that the child was contacted and offered money for sexually explicit pictures which fuelled the child's drug habit and the chaild says none of that happened, which one is telling the truth?

You can't ruin someone's career and jail them based on hearsay.
If it did happen then it is clear that the young person in question still doesn't regard it as something that he wants Edwards prosecuted for.

Emmanuel Macron was seduced by a 39 year old woman when he was 15 years old. Presumably his wife should be in prison?
She isn't because it was consensual and as far as the two parties are concerned no laws were broken.
 

BoldonLad

Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
Location
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Yes, and everyone seems to be forgetting the other estimated eight complainants ranging from mucky behaviour on the internet to workplace bullying.

Quite, plus, of course, he was presumably deceiving his wife, which as we all know, is a no-no if certain people do that.
 
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