Ian H
Legendary Member
It's like the comic relief in a dystopian novel.
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BoldonLad
Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
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Time to put a stop to this nonsense, another 30 curly little tails sticking up as the associated snouts join the trough.
Starmer = "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss" and even more appropriate when you think "Won't get foolded again" - which we yet again have been.
Rather than reform somewhere that is well overdue for reform Starmer is just maintaining the madness
Toby Young" "spending £350 billion to prolong the lives of a few hundred thousand mostly elderly people is an irresponsible use of taxpayer's money." (no idea where he got the £350 bn from but I doubt he has any idea either). Highlights a fundamental misunderstanding about the purpose of "lockdown" which further highlights a failing of our society where commentators without understanding start commentary and using their influence - a really bad way to run governance. Maybe he can help push his eugenicist policies through the House of Lords?
Ian
icowden
Squire
I don't think he has been in power long enough to enact any legislation to change the HoL, so these peerages come under the previous rules.
He was nominated by bad enoch.
BoldonLad
Old man on a bike. Not a member of a clique.
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- South Tyneside
I can accept he has not been in power long enough the CHANGE the rules, but, that does not mean he has the feed the madness, does it?
C R
Über Member
This
I really was hoping to be proved wrong, but my gut feel that Starmer would become the perfect feeder for farages's rhetoric is happening much quicker than I feared.
Beebo
Guru
He does still have to operate in the real world. And the Lords has an artificially large conservative majority. (No prizes for guessing why)
They are already looking to abolish hereditary peers and make other changes.
I would be in favour of a 10 year policy. Most people get peerages in their 50/60s so that seems fair.
I'm unsure about this. Starmer's focus is on measures in his Party Manifesto and Lords has an :understanding" that it doesn't block manifesto based legislation. It might still review and detect loopholes or shortcomings which is still useful but not block - so any opposition majority should not badly disrupt Starmer. And if it does all he has to do is make it clear that should the HoL block (rather than scrutinise) legislation he regards as important then he can always "stuff the Lords with Labour peers".
I can see the value of the HoL in terms of revising or blocking bad legislation, particvularly as the Commons seems to routinely try to pass poorly targeted legislation with loads of loopholes. I don't think an elected HoL would be any more than a duplication of the Commons, inappropriate party poodles selected by the leadership to do the Party Leader's bidding. But then an HoL appointed by the Party Leaders is probably even worse.
It seems a real shame how pervasive Political Parties have become. PCCs being an example - what justiofication is there for PCCs to be political party based, that LAbour put forward their candidate for PCC, Conservatoves put theirs forward, etc. Daft. It should have nothing to do with Party Politics but since it's introduction seems yet another Political Party vote. Daft to the point where I suspect I could never actually vote for a conservative PCC even if they were the best candidate because of the emotional struggle I'd have putting an "X" against a Conservative Candidate.
If I had to set the HoL membership system today I'd probably go for a proportional representation election system of a 10/15 year rolling basis, maybe election of ⅓ of house every 5 years. Very strict limits on Party election funding, maybe no Party identifiers allowed on any election materials nor on polling slips. Maybe even no election funding, just a CV (with no "policies") for all candidates distributed with public funding eg who I am, what/experience I can offer, etc. But then the trouble with Proportional Representation is that it is party based in that you mostly vote for a party not an individual. But I'm certainly very open to any other suggestions.
Ian