Oh no!! Brexit not going quite as well as hoped

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Mugshot

Über Member
Blimey. Tory MP Tobias Elwood suggests joining the EU single market. That’s his leadership bid finished.

Given the gargantuan economic challenges ahead, we must dare to assess how Brexit, the biggest geo-political decision in a generation, is faring. So loaded is the B word, many may prefer to steer clear of the subject. But this would be a dereliction of duty.

If an army general, mid-battle, is mature enough to finesse his strategy to secure mission success, then government should do the same. Let’s have the courage to dare to make operational amendments as we seek to leverage greater success.


If joining the single market (with conditions) results in strengthening our economy, easing the cost of living crisis, settling the Irish problem at a stroke and promoting our European credentials as we take an ever greater lead in Ukraine, would it not be churlish to not face this reality?


https://www.politicshome.com/thehou...-of-living-by-going-back-to-the-single-market

Dorries will be delighted with that, in the interview (mentioned over in the Johnson thread), she said the country was united now, including behind Brexit, as it was 6 years ago and people were looking forwards not backwards.
Poor old Nadine, so loyal, I'd like to see Johnson stay in power long enough to boot her out.
 

Unkraut

Master of the Inane Comment
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If joining the single market (with conditions) results in strengthening our economy, easing the cost of living crisis, settling the Irish problem at a stroke and promoting our European credentials as we take an ever greater lead in Ukraine,

What greater lead in the Ukraine? I haven't noticed much evidence of this, but perhaps I have missed it.

The rest of his thoughts on undoing some of the Brexit damage I have every sympathy with.
 
What greater lead in the Ukraine? I haven't noticed much evidence of this, but perhaps I have missed it.

The rest of his thoughts on undoing some of the Brexit damage I have every sympathy with.

There are self serving weasel words throughout - he is a Tory after all - but it’s still interesting that he feels able to say the unsayable now. Labour remains too scared to do the same.
 

Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
This just in, from a pro-Brexit FB group. They have finally found the benefit that makes it all worthwhile!

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FishFright

Well-Known Member
If we had to go metric I would have no idea what size clothes to buy. My trousers are 30/30, my shirts are 15, my jackets are 38. I haven't a clue what that lot is in cm.

It would take less time to find out on a search engine than it took to post that.
 
 
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mudsticks

mudsticks

Squire


Oh dear our 'fellow countrymen'..

:rolleyes:

Serious question - to anyone with longterm experience of living in other European countries with similar levels of education available as standard.

Are there as many, what shall I say..??

'Dimwitted' ?? people with so little grasp of the reality of how the world actually works, living there .??

Are Brits 'exceptionally thick' , or is the proportion of 'hard of thinking' pretty much the same there, as here ??
 

glasgowcyclist

Über Member


We witnessed the same queues last month when we went to Italy.

Fortunately I have the bonus of a recently acquired Irish passport so I was able to avoid that chore by heading to the almost empty EU desk instead. And even though my wife has only a UK passport, she is able to join me in the EU section too.



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Coming back home I used my UK passport and avoided the queue of non-UK passport holders.
 

Milzy

Well-Known Member
Leavers are telling me the cancelled holidays isn’t anything to do with Brexit, it’s all because of Covid. I get why they lost their workforce because of Covid but if we were still within the EU they’d have quickly filled the vacancies with foreign labour. Not to mention about the chaos created by passport control now been slower. Is that a fair analysis, because a lot of ignorant people are saying it’s all 100% Covid?
 

deptfordmarmoset

Über Member
Leavers are telling me the cancelled holidays isn’t anything to do with Brexit, it’s all because of Covid. I get why they lost their workforce because of Covid but if we were still within the EU they’d have quickly filled the vacancies with foreign labour. Not to mention about the chaos created by passport control now been slower. Is that a fair analysis, because a lot of ignorant people are saying it’s all 100% Covid?
I think it's a mixture of causes. Too quick to fire, assuming they'd still be here to rehire. A lot are no longer in the market after being dumped unceremoniously - they've gone to better employees. A fair proportion of airport employees are immigrants who have left and no longer want to be in the UK, so they're out of the market. It also takes a fair amount of time for the UK government to get security approval for new and rehired employees. There are also now more vacancies than employees in UK in general (the inflationary implications of this are only just dawning on the BoE). Slow government, covid, and Brexit all working together.
 
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