Oh no!! Brexit not going quite as well as hoped

[Deleted member 49]

The vote was cast in 2016 so I'm sure once the outcome was known appropriate preparation could have been made?

 

[Rusty Nails]

The vote was cast in 2016 so I'm sure once the outcome was known appropriate preparation could have been made?

Not just could have, but should have.
I really believe that Brexit was the aim in itself for a long time and no one in power had actually thought through what they would have do to implement it and how much that would cost.
It was, and still is, a failure of the Tory government and their craven submission to the pressure exerted by the ERG.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

Exactly my point, of course it's due to Brexit but it still should have been sorted as part of the process.

If it's completely down to the Government refusing to acknowledge this then it's on them.

It is indeed entirely down to the government that this has been handled so badly.

If you listen to this brief montage of statements by Tory ministers, you'll understand why the port authority is so ill-equipped to handle it. Rees-Mogg and the rest flatly deny there will be problems at Dover and assure us that it'll all run smoothly.


View: https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1551138151934066688?t=WzjGQqbLQ76ZAU1E5s87yg&s=19

 

[jowwy]

Not just could have, but should have.
I really believe that Brexit was the aim in itself for a long time and no one in power had actually thought through what they would have do to implement it and how much that would cost.
It was, and still is, a failure of the Tory government and their craven submission to the pressure exerted by the ERG.

So is it brexits fault or the governments fault???

 

[Salty seadog]

I guess no one knew in advance these checks were needed and thought of making provision?

Of course not, just blame Brexit.

And yes we all know there's no advantage and what has anyone gained blah, blah, blah but the point is everyone knew it was coming so sort your sh*t out you incompetent fookers.

Brexit is to blame, exacerbated by a woeful lack of planning.

However, whatever you do you cannot mitigate it all. When it takes 10 times as long to process a car with 2 passengers, longer if its got 4 people in it you can see it's not going to be fully overcome.

Let alone lorries, huge rise in paperwork and sanitary checks on foodstuffs and checks on goods in general those guys are getting really held up but hey we knew that would be the case, the Tories knew that would be the case but let's face it, they don't give a fark about the populous.

It will get better over time of course as we find better ways to cope etc but it's not going away and guess what.......

It is because of Brexit.

 

[Deleted member 28]

Sorry Shep, you threw me with this,



As @Rusty Nails said, putting the infrastructure in place, spending the money to try to lessen the effects would have been an admission that it was nothing that was promised.
The other option would have been negotiating something like Norway's deal, which maintains FOM, which is what they used to say they'd be trying to do of course.

Sorry, Brexit has caused the extra checks, which I have no problem with, it's just the implementation of these checks that has obviously been crap.

 

[mudsticks]

Not just could have, but should have.
I really believe that Brexit was the aim in itself for a long time and no one in power had actually thought through what they would have do to implement it and how much that would cost.
It was, and still is, a failure of the Tory government and their craven submission to the pressure exerted by the ERG.

Yup,

We're still working through what post brexit agricultural support will look like..

I'm still getting requests from researchers on a weekly basis, wanting to talk through it all..

Despite the fact that any promotion of more environmentally friendly methodologies will be scuppered by free trade deals that let in lower standard -ie, sub EU regs produce.

Still so much uncertainty about how we will proceed, most farmers and growers have no real idea what to plan or invest for.

Or whether just to get out altogether.

This is six years after the leave vote .
Still no one can be sure what the landscape of this sector will look like.
I'm certain we're not alone in terms of industry upheaval.

The gov were, and still are hopelessly unprepared for brexit, on all levels..

Meanwhile industry sectors limp along, with increased paperwork, increased costs, and no way of knowing what comes next..

An omnishambles, makes it sound cute and cuddly..

It's anything but..

 

[Xipe Totec]

Ill count you amoung the pricks and twats…….seems fitting really

In the event I ever want the opinion of a dismal, dull-witted manbaby, I err... no - actually, there's no reason I'd never want that.

So is it brexits fault or the governments fault???

Brexit and how it's been implemented is the Government's fault.

Work it out, if you can.

 

[Mugshot]

Brexit and how it's been implemented is the Government's fault.

Work it out, if you can.

And by strange coincidence, the Government is Brexit's fault.

 

[jowwy]

In the event I ever want the opinion of a dismal, dull-witted manbaby, I err... no - actually, there's no reason I'd never want that.



Brexit and how it's been implemented is the Government's fault.

Work it out, if you can.

I worked it out a longtime ago….in around 2016….shame you farkwits couldnt do the same, then you may have shed less tears over the past 6yrs and made a better job of it for yourselves.
But instead you just moan and moan and moan and moan like a prostitute having a great night in amsterdam.

 

[Rusty Nails]

Sorry, Brexit has caused the extra checks, which I have no problem with, it's just the implementation of these checks that has obviously been crap.

Do you accept that the potential problems were ignored or denied during the referendum by the government (as shown in post #3498) because it would not have helped the Leave argument and may have swayed the vote the other way?
You may be happy with the referendum result but do you accept you were not told the whole truth?

 

[jowwy]

Do you accept that the potential problems were ignored or denied during the referendum by the government (as shown in post #3498) because it would not have helped the Leave argument and may have swayed the vote the other way?
You may be happy with the referendum result but do you accept you were not told the whole truth?

There were untruths on both sides……

 

[Mugshot]

made a better job of it for yourselves.

That's a good shout, we could have had a crowdfunder for the £33m for a start

 

[winjim]

Rows and flows of angel hair
And ice cream castles in the air
And feather canyons everywhere...

 

[BoldonLad]

In the event I ever want the opinion of a dismal, dull-witted manbaby, I err... no - actually, there's no reason I'd never want that.



Brexit and how it's been implemented is the Government's fault.

Work it out, if you can.

Being picky, I know, but...

Not actually the same Government, Brexit (referendum) was under a Cameron (who presumably wanted to remain, but, made a shoot job of achieving that) Government, whilst implementation was down to a Boris Government (and, yes, I agree, another shoot job).