Oh no!! Brexit not going quite as well as hoped

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Doesn't affect you so of no consequence?
 
Oh hang on, I could join the gang.

Cool story bro 👍

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Xipe Totec

Something nasty in the woodshed
Don't know that one either, I can't help feeling I've missed out on all this humour.
That's the sort of thing us leftist libtard weaklings were sniggering at a few years ago while, erm - others, were probably howling in their Banks's at Roy Chubby Brown, Bernard Manning & Jim Davidson.
 
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That's the sort of thing us leftist libtard weaklings were sniggering at a few years ago while, erm - others, were probably howling in their Banks's at Roy Chubby Brown, Bernard Manning & Jim Davidson.
Explains a lot.
 

Pale Rider

Veteran
Banks's at Roy Chubby Brown,

Not a fan,. but I can't resist this opportunity to retell my (true) Chubby Brown story.

While appearing at the Sunderland Empire, he was accused of assaulting his wife who was on tour with him.

During his interview, the copper asked him: "Why did you hit your wife with a candlestick?"

To which Brown replied: "Because I couldn't lift the sideboard."
 

Milzy

Well-Known Member
They voted to take away rights, opportunities settlement and travel away from their children and grandchildren. They voted to take away the cheap financial security they benefitted from away from their families. They voted to take away workers and environmental protections from their families. They voted to make food and goods more expensive and to make our domestic products less competitive.
And the the reason they voted to put barriers to trade and creative tariffs was because they are thick or just plain racists.
No other reason. Unfortunately they won’t have as long to suffer the consequences as the rest of us let alone their grandchildren.
 

deptfordmarmoset

Über Member
The Express are going to be furious when they see this headline in The Express.

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But, in the words of Johnson, I've been repeatedly assured....
Economy growing, unemployment reducing.

If that's failure, we need more of it.
Did his facts include a growing economy and falling unemployment?
A growing economy and falling unemployment are two important facts which are hard to talk away, but it's amusing to see you try.

So the nursing home bloke can no longer get people to work in crappy conditions for even crappier pay.

I thought you'd approve of that.
Economy growing, unemployment reducing.

If that's failure, we need more of it.

[my bold. my bad]
 

icowden

Squire
Well, actually the @Pale Rider and Johnson are right. The economy is growing. The devil (as usual) is in the detail.
The way it works is this:-

In 2019 my company sells 1000 apples per month, the most it has ever sold.
In 2020 my company sells 10 apples per month due to lockdown / Covid / Brexit.
In 2021 my company sells 100 apples per month due to Brexit.

You see! In real terms I have seen 1000% growth!! Magic!!

The point is that you can claim anything if you don't declare your reference point.
So yes, GDP is recovering and growth is happening, but we are not yet back to where we were pre-pandemic.

As for trade, in 2019 trade made up 62% of GDP and it is now down to 54%, and continuing to drop. In the EU, trade as a percentage of GDP also dropped, but er, has now recovered is going up again, and is nearly back at pre pandemic levels (73% now vs 75% in 2019).

Now, can anyone tell me why they think EU trade as a percentage of GDP has recovered, whilst the UK's continues to fall?
It's almost like we just put up loads of barriers between ourselves and our largest trading partner....
 

farfromtheland

Regular AND Goofy
They voted to take away rights, opportunities settlement and travel away from their children and grandchildren. They voted to take away the cheap financial security they benefitted from away from their families. They voted to take away workers and environmental protections from their families. They voted to make food and goods more expensive and to make our domestic products less competitive.
And the the reason they voted to put barriers to trade and creative tariffs was because they are thick or just plain racists.
No other reason. Unfortunately they won’t have as long to suffer the consequences as the rest of us let alone their grandchildren.
Well as this seems to be a thread for diverse opinion I'd better weigh in here.

If the EU ever was an opportunity for social democratic betterment it went beyond that remit. The balance of power and influence between France (broadly socialist in effect) and Germany (broadly corporate capitalist) changed radically in this century. Germany is now gruner and France doigtier, a number of new member states (Hungary, Bulgaria, Poland) are distinctly right wing repressive, and the focus has changed to playing the superpower economic block game, I reckon.

Whatever 'cheap financial security' may be I have little direct experience of it. I suspect it is a middle class perk. I am not a big fan of benefits from an essentially corporate culture that buys off real dissent while promoting consumerism. I've met people who have come here from Romania to pick tulips for crap pay living in a tent in February in Scotland. Give me a caravan and the minimum wage and I will do this, though I'd prefer onions in September. The car industry has suffered from more and complex tariffs - let it! What an island needs as a bottom line is to grow enough food to feed itself. This was unlikely within EU agricultural norms. Using cheap EU labour for farming was downright exploitation. Food should be more expensive because it should be be grown and harvested sustainably by people with decent living conditions.

The only way to get this is for workers to fight for it. The key to environmental change is for people and communities to value this so much that we will go without cheap energy and build green alternatives. Legislation is the icing on the cake. We have to start local.

Is the EU funding climate change mitigation in frontline developing world communities? This would be my next priority.
 
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